@ChiiFett@Comrade_Del A lot of present ideas and myths is that if you want to be successful, you need to invest money and time. So when people hear about how money can equal success, they may presume an expensive rig is better than cheaper for their image.
@ChiiFett@Comrade_Del Because it's expensive, it has to be the best? Only the best people in the trade have high prices is the assumption anyone could make when starting out, why not have the full kit and kaboodle to start?
@ChiiFett@Comrade_Del And to add, if there are so many resources- that just means there is a lot of information out there in circulation. How much of it is up to date? Is all of it true? Which ones are scammers intercepting unwitting clients? Where do you get official information?
@ChiiFett@Comrade_Del And not one person in this entire debate, discourse or shit flinging in the past day has even linked these resources. And that is exactly what I mean - the reaction was, "you should know better".
@ChiiFett@Comrade_Del That is why it is important to help nurture the newbies and guide them to the best in the trade. Because those who don't know, they have no chance when preyed upon with bad contracts. And they end up hating the industry after being abused.
@ChiiFett@Comrade_Del Millions are spent by corporations for the simple premise of looking good, they invest money into campaigns that increase their public image so that they can draw customers. Freelance riggers don't have millions to spend in PR and fixing the damages done by the bad apples.
@ChiiFett@Comrade_Del They should add more protections to their WIPs then. I mean, it is only a temporary thing for the image to look that way so a watermark for the WIPs is a trade off that is understandable.
@ChiiFett@Comrade_Del Freelancers became a thing to escape from the callousness of the industry and be more personable, and now it's full circled into being the callous industry people wanted to escape. The idea was everyone helps each other out and prospers together.
@ChiiFett@Comrade_Del That is what it was meant to do, that doesn't mean it isn't being weaponized. The problem here is that a lot of starting vtubers are beginning to reflect and realize they got a bad bargain because no one was willing to help them, and the response to them is equally, "know better"
@ChiiFett@Comrade_Del Their protection is already settled, or was all this contract talk conjured from nothing? The point is that all these protections exist for one side now and won't budge to permit the clients any security as well.
@Dbob_77@HMBohemond One moment you're on a probing mission with a small unit of soldiers. The next moment, everyone around you is dead and you are suddenly seeing upside down because something sliced your head clean off.
Kind of hard to negotiate with that.
@ChiiFett@Comrade_Del The whole group of people are defending it by telling those who were affected to "know better". The answer is for artists to put even an inkling of effort into peer reviewing and holding each other accountable. In the end the stance is, "not my problem" until it becomes a problem
@ChiiFett@Comrade_Del This deflection of responsibility is why nobody likes what they are hearing. It boils down to, "we don't care that you got screwed over". And that obviously pisses people off, they were supposed to trust this community to not screw them over and they just shrug about scams.
@partialdecay_@AXwain Do you really want that to happen? Could you imagine if they bite because they can smell the opportunities to tax this trade? Maybe we should. Let's standardize this industry with the help of the government.
@Zelrone_ It's amazing how it goes full circle when greed comes into play in any business. It always starts with well meaning people providing a service, then it ends with legalese and wringing people dry of money because that's just "business".
@Zelrone_ This is the antithesis of why freelancers exist btw. The whole point of this direct one on one business was to break away from the callousness of the industry. Now the freelancers are talking like studio giants, "shoulda read that contract, fool".
@Zelrone_ Your entire reply was, "erm actually some sales people are good", yeah. They are your friend to sell a vehicle to you, it's up to you to play spot the difference on the contract and hope you spot the additional fees and clauses that can mess with your finances.
@Zelrone_ For reference- my grandfather worked in the automotive industry for over 40 years and still works on and sells vehicles to this day. I think he'd know more about it than you do, so I trust his word on how to handle dealing with dealership sales reps. Who he says are worse now.