@deluca2223@garycondie67 One should add, mainly English. Scots, Northern Irish and Welsh turned up. Josh Kerr, Jake Wightman, Kate O'Connor, Nick Briggs, Jeremiah Azu, Melissa Courteney-Bryant were all there. I think KJT gets a bye ball, has won 2 golds already and has a lot of miles on the clock...
@gylesnamopaleen@AmandaFBelfast NILTS is a shambles of a survey on confessional politics, always has been. Completely defeated by 'whatever you say, say nathin' culture here.
Compare its party political vote recollections historically with the actual results of those elections. Wildly inaccurate.
@AmandaFBelfast@openminded_26 The bigger question perhaps is will Alliance support, oppose or abstain on any motion calling for a border poll. If they oppose, they become de facto unionists for mathematical purposes with all that means; abstain, the maths becomes suddenly brutally tight in the Assembly...
@DrWHKitchen@squinteratn Informed, and more powerful, than the Tory party whip, as a general rule. I'd be rather alarmed if they weren't not least, since Gladstone was a babe in arms, politics has attracted risk takers and oddities.
@DrWHKitchen@squinteratn There's an old interview with a former Tory whip that is from another era, but quite open, and indeed explicit, in how the whips would and could both protect and exploit an 'unfortunate' colleague with a 'weakness for young boys', for example.
I'd assume that MI5 are better...
@lawrenson_40883 The best we ever got was a time-limited recognition that such one-sided suffering was never plausible in reality.
But so many would still grab for it, if it were containable to 'them'uns'.
Indeed, the worst of 'us' are willing to suffer too, so long as 'them'uns' suffer worse
@lawrenson_40883 I used to say the biggest lie in NI politics ever was John Major's common refrain :
"the vast majority of people in NI simply want peace."
No, they don't.
They want their own way.
And they are quite happy for that to be unpeaceful so long as only 'themuns' suffer for it.
@ScottMoore0@chrisadonnelly True. Deeply hypocritical as is to expected in this instance. Amusingly so. But PoC of some description was right back then, and still is now.
@chrisadonnelly To be fair, in this solitary, hypocritical instance, he is kinda right.
He didn't give a monkeys when the boot was on the other foot as recently as a decade ago, it's not a principled objection. We all know who Lowry is
But even so, there is something to the basic argument.
Slightly hilarious in that Lowry is guilty of exactly the same flipflopping on PoC issue, having previously long supported the 'majority rule, it at least supermajority rule' espoused by Jim Alistair until it became mathematically inconvenient.
But he's also right, this time.
@Lordcarson01916@MichaelPTKelly There is an astonishing ignorance of facts beyond the immediate, and one of the largest is the completely mistaken idea the UK is somehow abnormally hit by this.
It isn't. It arguably gets off light. And NI certainly does. And most of those who do come are white Christian.
@Lordcarson01916@MichaelPTKelly With Schengen.
In other words,it hasn't. It hopes that Greece, and Italy, and Spain managed to do it for them, and mainly finds its hopes frustrated.
Any idea how many foreign nationals are in Germany? Or France? Or Italy?
Per capita Greece has a FAR higher problem than UK.