#ClimateBrawl
Given nearly two centuries of physics data and thermodynamics we still have people who lie about basic science, Marc's excellent thread lays out the argument in detail.
Breaking News!
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June is starting off with record high sea-surface temperatures in the Nino 3.4 region, measuring an anomaly of just over 1.0°C above the 1991-2020 mean. The coming El Nino is expected to peak at more than 3.0°C above the 1991-2020 mean.
Stay tuned!
Since there are once again some pretty outlandish claims circulating based on non-peer-review papers, a reminder that the global temperature record of the past decade is fully consistent with state-of-the-art (CMIP6) climate model simulations: https://t.co/wozp1qtvHC
This is page 28, of an 1982 Exxon scientists report on what CO2 would do to global temps should it increase to todays levels https://t.co/Dtncr9T0CY They knew it would increase temps rapidly. They buried this paper and spent hundreds of millions spreading misinfo to sow doubt.
@trefjon@robinmonotti Re: Oreskes.
Total, aware of harmful global warming impacts since 1971. https://t.co/QFjPAEIkPF
ENI knew. https://t.co/hcDmjon2ed
Shell knew in 1966, when James Lovelock warned Lord Rothschild that fossil fuel combustion was leading to catastrophic pollution.
@trefjon@robinmonotti I’m persuaded, on balance, by the well documented evidence and consistent witnesses that Oreskes and many others present. BTW, 278 ppm in 1750 to >420 pom today counts as a miniscule change??? Wow!
@trefjon@robinmonotti Look around, Trefor. Look at what is happening in the world. Read e.g., Oreskes and Conway’s Merchants of Doubt. I’m afraid you’ve got it the wrong way round. You’re the one who has swallowed the oil company propaganda whole.
@trefjon@robinmonotti Industrialisation has taken 200 years to increase atmospheric CO2, ocean acidity and other indicators to levels last seen 80 million years ago. The 6th mass extinction in the history of the Earth is taking place around. Plastic contamination is everywhere. You want more?
@trefjon@robinmonotti To repeat: it takes a fraction of a second to realise I can in principle be no empirical data from the future. Empirical data always belongs to the past. So, to talk about the future. You can only use hypotheses, i.e., models.
If capitalism is so great, why do corporations need tax breaks, subsidies, exemptions, grants, bailouts, legal protections, and trade barriers to survive? And when ordinary people ask for help, why is it suddenly called socialism?
Fortunately, Britain has a Bermuda-registered mass circulation newspaper owned by a French-domiciled billionaire, a television station owned by a Dubai hedge fund and a political party backed by a Thailand-based crypto tycoon to remind us of the importance of patriotism