@JayDyer@TheHillofSlane There is only so much you can tell people who listen and don't listen. Basically you can tell more to a person who listens and nothing to someone who doesn't. What did I say, lol? You are etheir equal or greater. I hope that makes sense??? It's 3am and I am feeding a happy hippo
@Crossbearer77 Could it be because you and the people you know have not tried? I think you are the 1st to talk about orthodoxy at least. It could be good for you to mention it to others.