during fate plus tour all of the members were saying that they’re alright & happy (while collapsing on stage and performing as 5), only to confess later that they feared death & were numb to any joy. so yes, they can censor themselves too. the company treatment you’re funding btw
1. no tenían canciones preparadas (o mejor dicho rechazaron las que heeseung les mostró)
2. overflow fue escrita en abril
3. no tenían coreografía ni idea de cuantas canciones saldrían en el debut
4. sometieron a su artista a un nivel de estrés y hate MASIVO
5. lo apresuraron
[PROVIDED INFO]
The worker didn’t say, « We want to show Heeseung’s passion for his solo work. » He said the goal is convincing the audience.
In marketing, if you have to aggressively convince your consumer to buy a story, it means the story contradicts what the consumer already knows to be true (which is that Heeseung is an essential part of ENHYPEN and OT7 stans want him back).
By framing it as a « goal we have to reach, » they are admitting that his solo debut is a calculated corporate campaign designed to override fan resistance.
#ENGENEsBoycottBelift
#SevEN_Built_ENHYPEN
people can debate the exact methodology, but the broader point is really hard to ignore: long-term shareholders haven’t been rewarded. and if y’all fail to acknowledge facts, that’s on you.
everyone talks about streams, chart records, and headlines, but shareholders judge companies on value creation. over the past five years, HYBE has struggled to deliver that. so again, ignoring the broader picture doesn’t change the outcome.
between the stock’s underperformance, governance controversies, and strategic decisions that have repeatedly failed to reward shareholders, it’s understandable why many investors have lost confidence in such a hopeless management.
thank you so much for putting the numbers together.🫶🏻
This is not financial advice😂
1/ Let's talk about HYBE (352820) and why holding it for the last 5 years has been a massive wealth trap for shareholders. Whether you invested as a foreigner in USD or locally in KRW, the math is brutal. Here is the exact breakdown of a 5-year ROI:
2/ THE BASELINE (The Asset):
Between July 2021 and July 2026, HYBE's stock price dropped from 319,500 KRW to 206,000 KRW. That is a flat -35.5% nominal drop in the asset itself. But your actual realized loss heavily depends on your currency and local inflation.
3/ SCENARIO A: The Local Investor (KRW)
Assume you invested ~114.3M KRW.
• Stock depreciation leaves you with 73.7M KRW.
• Factor in South Korea's 5-year cumulative inflation (17.1%).
Result: Your real purchasing power evaporated by 45%. You lost nearly half your wealth without even touching exchange rates.
4/ SCENARIO B: The Foreign Investor (USD)
You invest $100,000. Because HYBE doesn't have a US-listed ADR, you are fully exposed to FX risks.
Over 5 years, the USD strengthened by 30.6% against the Won. You are getting hit from both sides.
5/ THE DOUBLE WHAMMY (USD)
Stock drop (-35.5%) + Currency devaluation penalty against the dollar = Your portfolio is now worth just $49,347.
You suffered a 50.6% nominal loss simply because you had to convert your USD to Won, and back to a stronger USD.
6/ THE INFLATION KILLER (USD)
Add the US 5-year cumulative CPI (23.7%). To just break even in purchasing power, your initial $100k needed to grow to ~$123.7k. Instead, you are sitting on $49.3k.
The real purchasing power loss for a USD investor? A staggering 60%.
7/ THE VERDICT:
Corporate management decisions and macroeconomic factors combined for a perfect storm.
KRW Investor Real Loss: -45%
USD Investor Real Loss: -60%
The board's strategic execution over the last 5 years has fundamentally failed to protect shareholder value.
HE SAID
앞으로 그런 분쟁을 조장하는 분들은 팬이 아닌 걸로 생각하려고 한다.
“From now on, I’m going to think of people who encourage those fights as not being fans.”
OT6 SEEING THIS HUH
i feel like after listening to jungwons clip and talking to one of my friends from Korea i feel the need to say something..
he said: 그런 것 때문에 엔진들이 싸우는 게 보기가 좋지 않다. 솔직히 공연에도 방해가 된다.
“Because of things like that, seeing ENGENEs fight isn’t nice. Honestly, it also interferes with the performance.”
because 보기가 좋지 않다 is a way of saying
“It’s unpleasant to see.”
NOT
“I hate ot7.”
앞으로 그런 분쟁을 조장하는 분들은 팬이 아닌 걸로 생각하려고 한다.
“From now on, I’m going to think of people who encourage those fights as not being fans.”
조장하다
Means „provoke“/ „stir up“
He’s NOT saying
“Everyone who disagrees.”
He’s most likely specifically referring to people he believes are actively fueling conflict.
Given the timing after the Lima concert where the physical altercations happened and the wording he chose, it’s reasonable to interpret his criticism as being directed toward people who were escalating and provoking conflict. (Both sides!)
앞으로 그런 분쟁을 조장하는 분들은 팬이 아닌 걸로 생각하려고 한다.
“From now on, I’m going to think of people who incite/provoke those kinds of fights as not fans.”
The part 그런 분쟁을 조장하는 분들. (those who promote such disputes)
He did NOT say:
-People who believe ENHYPEN is 7 are fake fans.
-People who say the ot7 fanchant are fake fans.
-Anyone who misses the previous ENHYPEN is a fake fan.
Those sentences simply never left his mouth.
he used the verb 조장하다, which means:
to provoke/stir up/encourage conflict/fights- so grammatically, the main thing of his criticism is people who are provoking fights, not people holding a particular feeling/opinion.
where the disagreement comes from is the sentence:
‘Enhypen is 7’이라는 말은 우리끼리 싸우라는 이야기다.
“ENHYPEN is 7’ is a statement that tells us to fight among ourselves.”
Some interpret this as:
“Therefore, anyone who says ENHYPEN is 7 is provoking conflict.”
Others interpret it as:
“He’s talking about people using that slogan in ways that create fights.”
That extra connection people made is an interpretation..
His main focus was on the fighting:
The repeated topic was conflict, not simple opinions.
Let me clear something, idc if I get jumped.
Jungwon never mentioned to stop the fanchant.
He never said to stop boycotting.
He only told us to stop fighting.
idk… IDK but nothing abt this feels genuinely like Jungwon was referring to us stopping our fight against belift, call me delusional but my grandma-ass-gut-feeling tells me otherwise