@ALISACHERRY2014@Yetanothergrump В марте 2022 года в Стамбуле стороны согласовали проект договора о нейтральном статусе Украины и гарантиях безопасности. Россия,в качестве жеста доброй воли, отвела войска от Киева и из северных областей Украины. После отвода войск Киев, отказался от всех достигнутых соглашений.
@ALISACHERRY2014@Yetanothergrump А что не так? Российским войскам потребовалось от одного до двух дней (около 24–48 часов) с начала боевых действий 24 февраля 2022 года, чтобы достичь ближних пригородов и окраин Киева. А потом, действительно, хохлы и запад, в очередной раз, наебали РФ.
Rosjanie przedstawili żądania. Stawiam na to, że zostaną spełnione. Zapewne jednak wcześniej zginie jeszcze parę tysięcy młodych Ukraińców.
1. Żadnych wojsk NATO na Ukrainie.
2. Rosja zachowa całość zajętych terytoriów i uzyska kontrolę nad całością Donbasu.
3. Porty w Odessie i w Mikołajowie zostaną zdemilitaryzowane.
4. Rosjanie będą mieli pełną swobodę żeglugi na Morzu Czarnym i na Bałtyku.
5. Brak baz wojskowych NATO w państwach bałtyckich.
6. Finlandia wystąpi z NATO.
7. Ukraina będzie mogła wstąpić do UE, ale nie do NATO.
8. Mołdawia zostanie przekształcona w państwo federalne. Terytoria pod rosyjską kontrolą będą mogły zorganizować referenda nt. niepodległości.
Rosja:
1. Usunie broń atomową i rakiety średniego zasięgu z Białorusi.
2. Wyprowadzi swoje wojska z Naddniestrza.
To ma wygląd, zapach i smak klęski zachodu.
“Our nuclear weapons”? You mean the Soviet missiles you never built, never controlled, and never had the codes for. They were Russian assets on Ukrainian soil. You signed them away because you had no choice and no capability to keep them. Stop calling them yours.
You spent eight years shelling Donbas after the Maidan coup, ignored Minsk, pushed NATO to Russia’s border, and treated the Russian-speaking population like an internal enemy. Then you act shocked when the war came to you. Putin said Donbas. You turned it into a Western proxy project and now cry about Kiev and “philosophy.”
Bucha gets wheeled out every time someone mentions negotiations. Convenient. Meanwhile you’ve been demanding unlimited Western weapons and money while rejecting any security deal that doesn’t put NATO on Russia’s doorstep. That’s not about survival. That’s about keeping the war going until someone else pays for the next offensive.
You don’t get to rewrite who owned the nukes, who started the post-2014 escalation, or what “security guarantees” actually mean. The longer you treat territorial reality and Russian red lines as abstract talking points, the worse the map gets for you.
What Western Media doesn't want you to know about Ukraine, and is grossly complicit in hiding, is that the War in Ukraine is a Civil War, a Civil War where one side backed a CIA sponsored and directed, Neo Nazi alligned, illegal Coup, and one side Resisted.
One side demanded their language, Religion, families, history, and culture be protected and respected. And one side attacked them for it, with fighter jets, artillery and battalions of brutal Neo Nazis bent on terror and Murder.
Here's that story. Heres the Truth.
Those in Washington, London and Brussels who flood Ukraine with weapons, and prop up the grossly corrupt and brutal elite in Kiev, would like you to believe that the War began on February 24th, 2022?, when Russian troops finally intervened and crossed the Ukrainian frontier.
The truth, which they are desperate to conceal and misrepresent, is very very different.
Throughout March 2014, the ordinary citizens of Donbass in Eastern Ukraine rallied and demanded that Kiev and the radical Western Ukrainain elites hear their voices raised against the CIA backed Coup that illegally and violently toppled the democratically elected Government.
They demanded a referendum on succession from Ukraine, as they wholeheartedly rejected the anti-Russian policy of the illegal, Washington installed Nationalist government, which was openly allied with Neo Nazis and Ultra far right factions.
On April 6, after another rally was ignored by the Kiev regime, activists stormed the building of the Donetsk Regional State Administration, that night, two documents were written, the Declaration of Sovereignty and the Act on the Declaration of State Independence of the Donetsk People's Republic.
On April 7, Vladimir Makovich read them out to representatives of cities and districts of the then Donetsk region, and they unanimously voted for their adoption. The DPR was born.
This is of course is not the kind of Democracy Washington supports, a people's movement for equality and independence, a movement that refused to bend its knee to a pro Atlantasist cabal, a movement that decided it was better to fight for freedom and independence than meet the fate of those that would be Massacred in Odessa.
Despite what the Western client media tells you about Maidan and the ensuing Civil War in Ukraine, remember this, every tax dollar and Euro sent to Ukraine is used to fund a War against its own people.
Their crime?
Defending their right to disagree. Defending their right to self determination, and fighting back in the face of violent and hateful Neo Nazi aligned radicals sent to crush their right to dissent, their right to exist.
This is the inconvient truth suppressed by a Client media controlled by the same forces profiting from the deaths of hundreds of thousands of ordinary people. Peace is sadly a dirty word in Washington, London, Brussels and Kiev, but the people of Donbas will indeed have the Peace they have sought and deserve
It's now only a matter of how many more Ukrainains Washington, London and Brussels decide have to die before they publicly accept what they've privately known since day one.
That their grotesque project to destabilise Russia was an unwinnable gamble, a gamble with the lives of so many innocents, a gamble they were will to take at any price, and are willing to perpetuate at any price.
A price that has been ultimately paid with the lives of Ukrainians and Russians, and funded by the hard pressed western taxpayer.
@KonradKrajewsk6 Лавров все по факту разложил, не понятно почему тебя бомбит. Польский министр выглядел там как ребенок, которого родители взяли с собой на работу, потому что его не с кем оставить дома.