@overzealots_ Why is everyone in the DGG crashing out? How did one of the largest Democrat sweep in US history makes these "liberals" collapse so hard?
@7armedman@thesoypill That's just 1 point. I skimmed this stupid discussion.
At ~2:20:00 was Hutch saying Sarah supporting a John McCain republican over a democrat was less egregious than Kyle Kulinski saying not to vote for a Democrat presidential candidate? Kyle never said don't vote for Harris
@7armedman@thesoypill At what stage would Hasan have the material and institutional resources that could compete with Sarah Longwell, an ex-Republican strategist with ties to numerous Republican donors?
That by itself is a ludicrous preposition
@Vi_x333@thesoypill That's a logical through line. DSA were adversarial to the democratic establishments neo-liberal policies and corporate influence. The Bulwark "crowd" don't need to be adversarial because they leverage Republican donors to the party. Their political strategy was adopted in 2024
@radicallymid@thesoypill Or when the campaign advisors (ex-republicans) told Waltz to stop calling MAGA "weird" (every normie loved it but they wanted to win Republican votes(?))
Or when they hired Keir Starmer advisors (UK) and they told her to be tougher on the border than Trump. Fun times
@radicallymid@thesoypill Oh so it was just a bunch of stupid leftists and not Harris screaming about maximizing the lethality of the US military (DNC 3rd night), or when Harris stopped talking taxing billionaires, or when she got Sarah Longwell to hook her up with Liz Cheney (>15% approval rating).
@radicallymid@thesoypill I know you guys thought it was "lefties didn't vote for Kamala because their traitors" but the reality is that the Harris campaign began with economic populist message, and after the DNC neo-conservative pivot refocused their message to win over "never Trump" republicans eg Sarah
@Q_rsqrtFan@thesoypill I'm sorry but Hutch made no sense at all. The comparisons between Hasan and Sarah are ludicrous considering Sarah was a Republican strategist and has connections with Republican donors and financiers. She has broader material and institutional support.
That's just one point
@radicallymid@thesoypill You do remember after the 2024 DNC the Bulwark gloated about how the last day felt like neo-con republican messaging, they were giddy (cause they're Republicans). That shift in messaging from the Harris campaign caused her approval rating to stagnate and slide.
@Vi_x333@thesoypill Wait? What did you listen to?
Cause what I listened to was Hutch arguing that another adoption of Clinton 2016 and Harris 2024 strategy of appeasing to a non-existent "center" for the general... which is stupid
Also there was no pragmatism when talking about DSA
@thesoypill Skimming through this and I stopped at the part where Hutch inferred that his main issue with Hasan is that he does not have the material connections that Sarah Longwell has (a republican strategist), not an ideological one?
Skipped to 2:20:00 and he's fine with John McCain?