Norman Jansen

Volleyball and Soccer is Life. Chemical engineer with 30+ years experience after schooling at Colo State & Purdue.

[Norman Jansen @nbjansen]

After joining Twitter 14 yrs ago it's good to see it getting better under new leadership! #MyTwitterAnniversary #TownSquare #FreeSpeechMatters

[Norman Jansen @nbjansen]

Since you care about women's rights I hope you think about the impact disrespecting transgender athletes has on our shared effort to keep males out of female sports and spaces. Gender isn't a synonym for sex and this letter to @Riley_Gaines_ https://t.co/RauuuaGAoo also applies to you and others who unknowingly (and ironically) assist TRA's invade female spaces.

[Norman Jansen @nbjansen]

No. Gender and sex are SEPARATE categories. You're conflating sex with gender. Transwomen are a subset of women on the gender diagram and they are of the male sex. People are either male or female regardless of their gender so the Venn diagram for sex on the right is simple. Since transwomen are male, they don't belong in female spaces. Since transwomen are a subclass of women (gender) they claim they belong in women's spaces. That's the importance of using words for sex (female) as the key attribute like the IOC is doing instead of gender (woman). When talking about gender, the water is muddy unless you specify whether cisgender or transgender. Avoid ambiguity by using sex. https://t.co/i7pnTl2FoI

[Norman Jansen @nbjansen]

They shouldn't have to. That's the whole point of using smarter words to KEEP MALES OUT OF FEMALE SPORTS AND SPACES. It's mostly females who feel sympathetic for transgender athletes when they see them misgendered/mistreated by people like you and Riley Gaines. So they sit on their hands instead of insisting that no male invade female sports. If you care more about exclusive ownership of the word woman than you care about saving female sports, that's indeed sad. Responsible males want for fairness (I have three younger sisters, two daughters, and six granddaughters) which is why I implore you to think about the ramifications of your words. https://t.co/3NP7CLZEpy

[Norman Jansen @nbjansen]

It's not a crime to misgender people, yet doing so deliberately is disrespectful and indeed transphobic. Deplorable treatment of transgenders by people like you IS WHY EMPATHETIC PEOPLE agree to bestow special treatment on trans people AT THE EXPENSE OF FEMALES. Don't make the same mistake Riley Gaines is making because it's retarding efforts to keep males out of female sports and spaces which should be a 90-10 issue.

[Norman Jansen @nbjansen]

You're misreading the Venn diagrams. The one on the left is GENDER (woman/man) not sex (male/female). The one on the right is SEX and people are either one or the other. Sex and gender are not the same classifications even though as the gender diagram shows, gender aligns with sex for most people. But not all. Nothing muddy about the set theory shown. https://t.co/PL9ChpcTZ4

[Norman Jansen @nbjansen]

Girls are not adults, and girls can't know they're transgender because they haven't grown through adolescence and their biochemical (hormones etc) levels haven't yet stabilised. So your "logic" is null and void. A woman is an adult human female or someone who identifies as such. A girl is a prepubescent female (and while some claim "or a male who's transgender" but my position is that transgender girls don't exist as detailed in this paper which I'm guessing you're also to lazy to read so I can't reason with you). #ReadAndLearn https://t.co/G3ekCEaKid

[Norman Jansen @nbjansen]

Rather than "being told" what to say she's being advised what words work better for the message they agree on, like what I'm doing (with different words) in this Substack article. If you'd followed her over the last four years you'd know of her sincerity, but you'd rather ignore reality... https://t.co/zHI1g62n8b

[Norman Jansen @nbjansen]

Riley is passionate about saving female opportunity and safety against the headwinds of vocal TRAs who control most media and educational establishments. Will you be as courageous as Riley or are you keeping your head low? #BeBrave like @Riley_Gaines_ https://t.co/IZTaQTjC3L

[Norman Jansen @nbjansen]

@LevertBurtmore @fairnotkind @WomanLiberating @iky_fwjett Yes of course. And using words that are clear is the best way to achieve safety and opportunity for cisgender girls and cisgender women who deserve opportunity and safety.

[Norman Jansen @nbjansen]

Disagreement over the definition of woman is the reason using sex is more effective. Simply say "females are entitled to a space free from males" and that also includes girls. Chose smart words that can be easily defended. It's true TRAs are trying to re-define sex, yet the definition of sex (SRY gene and gametes) is much more easily defended. Those who consider woman and female synonyms are unwittingly helping TRAs re-define sex via the transitive property of logic. https://t.co/gdEmKS5L4V

[Norman Jansen @nbjansen]

Spot on. It's sadly dangerous to speak truth, although if we can advocate for keeping males out of female sports without hurting trans people who are too often treated like illegitimate freaks, we'll be more effective. Here's an open letter to @Riley_Gaines_ encouraging her to use wiser words to save female sports. https://t.co/zHI1g62n8b

[Norman Jansen @nbjansen]

That's the benefit of using words for sex (female/male) instead of gender (woman/man/trans/cis) in law and policies since the definition of sex is fixed (binary based on SRY gene & gametes) while gender is more ambiguous. Females should be entitled to spaces free from males, and using those words avoids issues associated with the fuzzy definitions of "women" & "men" that lead to so much disagreement as this article shows. https://t.co/zHI1g62n8b

[Norman Jansen @nbjansen]

Very cool to see the MNT play so well in Seattle this afternoon.

[Alexi Lalas @AlexiLalas]

Almost heaven…

[Norman Jansen @nbjansen]

Heads up: @FairNotKind will engage in discussion (in this case regarding trans athletes and Riley Gaines), then when losing the debate, spam you and then delete the evidence of her loss. 45,000 posts she has. Don't waste your time… https://t.co/IlVc07Xv2A

[Norman Jansen @nbjansen]

@fairnotkind Women meaning cisgender (female) and transgender women. Have a good evening... #SetTheoryApplies

[Norman Jansen @nbjansen]

What makes the trans-athletes-invading-girls-sports issue seem intractable is the imprecise words we use conflating gender with sex. The solution right in front of us falls on deaf ears since we're so accustomed to using woman (gender) as a synonym for adult female (sex). Yet there are important distinctions as this short article explains. Simply use sex (female or male) instead of gender (woman, man, trans, cis, etc), as the International Olympic Committee is wisely doing for the LA Olympics. Use precise words and the problem is no longer intractable. Here's how- https://t.co/etFoUCerXz @TheFive @HaroldFordJr @DanaPerino @GregGutfeld @JesseBWatters @JessicaTarlov @FoxAndFriends

[Norman Jansen @nbjansen]

I agree with you about WHO, yet millions of people around the world have the same views as WHO. I live in the REAL WORLD where diverse people decide who to vote for and what policies to support. I'm merely trying to show you why what should be a 90-10 issue has been so difficult. And how much easier it would be to win simply by using smarter words for sake of female athletes instead of trying to hit a home run and claim exclusive ownership of the word woman while stamping out transgender people. MALES should have to use MALE changing rooms unless they've gotten rid of their pen1s. I can lead a horse to water yet can't make him or her drink. Have a good weekend. https://t.co/zHI1g62n8b

[Norman Jansen @nbjansen]

I've thought and researched extensively, and understand semantics and set theory quite well. What you're missing is the way denial of the legitimacy/humanity of transgender people by TERFs is viewed as transphobic by millions, and engenders support for TRAs (even more than they deserve) AT THE EXPENSE OF FEMALE ATHLETES. BTW, my wife used to be an office worker for an Indian professor and anyone who went to grad school with foreign students is well-versed on the caste system (including from the experiences we heard from our female US peers). Have you read this paper or are you just responding based on your feelings about this? https://t.co/PL9ChpcTZ4