@kentoyomacazie@Joissbert Again multiple things can be true?? Financially it doesn’t make sense bc of roster constraints. What’s hard to understand that. How is it downplaying it show me the deal that fell through. Windy even said it wasn’t serious and not that close. It was nonsense.
@kentoyomacazie@Joissbert lol “star player leverage”. Stop it. KD saying he refused to golden state had barely any influence. It’s just common sense. if the trade would’ve put them in a better financial position and better position to compete there would have been an offer made.
@kentoyomacazie@Joissbert Yes bc KD had so much leverage that he could just tell the team no. If the trade was that worth it, it would’ve happened. That’s it. There’s no oh KD doesn’t want to go. If Jimmy was that worth it financially and talent wise who gaf abt KDs opinion
@kentoyomacazie@Joissbert We’re in month 2 what contending team is making it publicly known they’re waiting till the offseason to in month 2. Be serious
@kentoyomacazie@Joissbert If they wanted him that bad the trade would’ve happened.. financially it didn’t make sense.. what advantage does 36yr JB give you with the same roster? His contract plus an extension just leaves you in the same space. Why make the trade.
@kentoyomacazie@Joissbert So why didn’t they trade him? It’s clear his contract and suns roster was the main reasons If the deal was that good you wouldn’t pass up that opportunity. The suns don’t owe KD shit. Beal wouldn’t waive his no clause. Trading KD for butler would have left the suns the same
@kentoyomacazie@Joissbert Your OG question was where is the interest from other teams… I said there’s interest just not under his current contract… argument hasn’t been the same. Not a hypothetical same thing with kuminga, older vets, etc. not an uncommon concept in the NBA
@kentoyomacazie@Joissbert And he wanted to resign for a bigger contract. So now you’d have Beal, booker and a 36yr old Jimmy and no depth, no pg and having to sign a bunch of vet mins. So again the contract was a huge reason.
@kentoyomacazie@Joissbert lol bc 2 things can be true. Yes he has value. 13 ppg last szn with 39 gp and he was injured. 18 ppg with WAS. It just doesn’t make financial sense. Why buy now when you know you can sign him for better later. Also most contending teams aren’t hurting for a pg.
@kentoyomacazie@Joissbert That’s not my point. production isn’t the only factor that determines value. it was one of the main reason the warriors made that trade for CP3. No contending team is giving up that much cap space & players for a backup. And a rebuilding team like WAS was going to move him anyway
@kentoyomacazie@Joissbert Memphis barely made an offer, bc they weren’t willing to give up much to get him. Also jimmy wanted to go to a contender that would pay him. His interest was phoenix and dubs… in JPs case what contending or rebuilding team is giving up that much cap/ players for a backup
@kentoyomacazie@Joissbert Basing a players trade value strictly on performance is silly. For ex teams want herb jones bc his performance plus is contract is team friendly. If he was paid steph money the interest would be quiet. Pingus has value rn not bc of his performance but his contract clears cap
@kentoyomacazie@Joissbert Phoenix and Memphis were never in serious play because they would have had to give up too much depth and wouldn’t have much room to sign anyone else. Jimmy was traded at the last minute bc pat had no choice but to take the dubs offer. Hence his contact being a major influence.
@kentoyomacazie@Joissbert You’re saying this but jimmy butler on an expiring contract had more consistent production. Even he had little to no interest on the trade market. The main reasons that he wanted to be paid and his existing contract.
@kentoyomacazie@Joissbert I’m not in the boat of ppl thinking he’s an all star. But as a solid role player who knows the system it would be nice to revisit in the future. Rn, I’d rather the warriors focus on a wing and a big.
@kentoyomacazie@Joissbert I think the lack of interest is more so due to his contract.
I get player accountability. But some organizations should bare more responsibility for their lack of player development. Like the wizards haven’t successfully developed a star in damn near a decade.
@destrphforless This is my biggest issue. If you had an issue with KD going to the bay, you should have been equally mad at LeBron. No one outside the dubs was beating that team in 7 games.