Nitin Nain

Engineer: Python, SQL, Cloud Infrastructure, Web Backends, Big Data. SDA Bocconi alumni.

[kanav @kanavtwt]

Day 1 of vibecoding

[Nikhil Pahwa @nixxin]

A few additional thoughts on the Telegram ban in India:

1. Is this a permanent ban?

It's unusual for the Indian government to issue a press release about the telegram ban: the precedence that I remember is when Chinese apps were banned in India in June 2020 including tiktok. A Section 69A order to ban something doesn't necessitate a press release, in fact it is protected by a secrecy clause, which should be held unconstitutional.

So what prompted this press release? Is this a signal? Were they expecting a backlash and a PR puts a govt justification (as hollow as the Chinese app ban, which I supported) before the reaction. A BJP guy I spoke to the night of the Chinese app ban told me if they had their way, this would be permanent.

So, is this ban permanent? As in, after things die down, will the date be extended?

2. This looks terrible for India and will impact us:

It makes us look like a banana republic. Who in their right mind blocks an app used by hundreds of millions of users because of AN EXAM? How is this even legal, and is such a short-sighted-knee-jerk-uneducated-action-even-justifiable in a democracy?

We talk about ease of doing business but for us it's a slogan. Which global business will want to operate in an environment of such regulatory uncertainty? We've seen some exit: toyota, citibank.

This will play out across the world. It will definitely make it to late-night-comedy on US TV shows. We'll be a joke. Blocks telegram because of EXAMS?

These are important signals that investors look at, and investors like going where things are predictable from a regulatory standpoint (unless they're playing a high stakes game), and not operating on whims. Look at the Crypto ban that pushed Indian crypto companies overseas. Look at the advisory on AI regulation that made founders question about building AI in India, before it was hurriedly rolled back.

And this does look whimsical, unconstitutional and the idea of some guy with power who decided this is how things go. I mean, look at the US these days. Same thing.

Varun Grover's "kabootar ki barfi" commentary comes to mind.

At this point in time, as a nation, we need to project regulatory certainty and rule of law in a global economy where money doesn't know where to go. If the CEO of a company has to justify investing in India to her board, with the limited understanding that people have about India, the board is likely to push back because its their job to protect investor money.

We're failing at this spectacularly, and I'm not saying this just wrt the Telegram ban. We're doing the opposite of what we ought to do.

3. This is precedence-setting.

Once this goes through unchallenged, this will happen again and again and again. it happened with Internet shutdowns, and the Indian government got a lot of criticisms for years, for over 100 Internet shutdowns a year in the country. In some cases, especially Kashmir and Darjeeling, there were over 100 days of bans. Kashmir had bans regularly, for years. At that time we argued that this won't happen in a major city.

App bans are easier: you block one, and people switch to an alternative, because as Indians, we adjust to government diktats. It hurts less than an entire Internet ban.

IT Cell kicks in and says:
- "you can't sacrifice using a messaging app for your country?"
-"They didn't follow government orders, so this is right." - "there's lots of harmful content on telegram (pick anything from terror financing to port to copyright violation to app features)"
- "It has harmful features like message editing that can lead to people being mislead that an exam paper has leaked."

I'm surprised tech company founders haven't been given rewritten tweets on this issue btw. It's a thing and I'm surprised to see some friends of mine tweet a copypasted tweet recently, but I understand their compulsions: they're in a high risk business in a high risk country with little or no leverage.

4. Is this a smoke-test for Whatsapp?

I'm wondering about how the decision went, and who took the final call. We know that it probably wasn't MEITY: for things like such bans, MEITY bows to Home Affairs. It's a BIG decision to take, given the hundreds of millions of users impacted. Did it go up to the PM? Ofc heads won't roll, like in case of the education minister, and that was demonstrably a shit-show that deserved a public sacking. this is smaller.

This is kinda like the Indian Internet's demonetization moment, except there's no Paytm publishing ads in newspapers, and no payments industry celebrating a windfall, leeching growth off millions of people hanging off a cliff trying to get access to their own money. Media is already controlled and probably won't cover this well, and social media and YouTube is all there is, and it's tiny, and this is Telegram not Whatsapp. This makes me wonder if this is a smoke test as leverage against Whatsapp.

Remember that the streaming services did not challenge the IT Rules in 2021 after what happened in case of Tandav.

5. Legality of the ban:

legality of a ban is not a consideration anymore in India since the IT Rules challenges (they're largely unconstitutional) are stuck in courts, and in my opinion Indian courts are doing little about constitutional rights like freedom of expression, so that has given confidence to the government to create an infrastructure for censorship, and increasing censorship over the last five months. They're not responding to RTI's btw. We tried.

Make no bones about this:
- This act is disproportionate. There is legitimate speech that is being pre-censored with a ban on an app like this.
- there is no clear cause-and-effect impact in terms of public order here.
- The short term of the ban (so far) doesn't justify the scale of the impact, though that might be leverage in courts because by the time the hearing happens, the ban may be lifted so no one may actually consider challenging it.

I'm of the opinion that except in some cases, our courts, including our Supreme Court, haven't upheld constitutionality and individual rights of citizens that is core to the functioning of a democracy. But that's a global trend, and this too shall pass. I think that when courts act to protect our rights, its an exception rather than the rule. Most of the time, like the SC did in case of the Right to Privacy (700+ days before a nine judge bench was founded), they just delay justice.

6. There are reports, and I don't understand this too well since I've not tracked network infrastructure for a while, that Internet landing station infra is being used to block Telegram. Ignore Durov's conspiracy theory claims of Whatsapp initiating this, because afaik this is a different Reliance (ADAG). Plus I don't think Whatsapp is that stupid or short sighted. But for those in networking, is the usage of landing stations to block an app unprecedented?

Anyway, these are just some things I was thinking about so dumping it here.

[Sarahh @Sarahhuniverse]

Forever Internet GOLD 😂

[Jason Fried @jasonfried]

What do they got?

A big team, lots of money, a strong brand, seemingly unlimited resources, panache, reputation, all that. They’re established.

They’re your competitors.

You want to look away, but you see them everywhere. Their ads on your social, their name in the media, your dream clients on their website.

But you know what else they got?

Bigger company bloat. Overflowing obligations. Narratives to uphold. Appearances to maintain. Entitlement. Too much overhead.

They’re slow. They’re conservative. They talk too much. They’ve stopped taking risks. They’re resting on their laurels, gliding on their reputation. They’re on defense.

What they’ve really got is a lot to lose.

What do you got?

Hunger. Drive. Grit. Scrappiness. Independence. You’re on offense.

You don’t have enough, which is why you’re dangerous. You have no choice but to be clever and creative. To make up for what you don’t have with something they can’t have: The underdog spirit.

You can move. You can adjust. You can adapt. You can get it done while they’re still stuck deciding what to do.

Small is not a stepping stone. Small is not less than. It’s greater than. It’s faster than. It’s better than.

Savor your position. You don’t get to be the underdog forever. The baton will be passed. But for now, it’s your magic wand. Use it.

We stand with the underdogs.

[Nitin Nain @nitinnain]

I usually don't stan popular personalities, but @asha_shar is fast becoming my fav new business leader!

[Nitin Nain @nitinnain]

@venkat_fin9 This will be there fall. I can’t wait for 2028 elections and this BS to end. Alas a lot of vehicles will be ruined by then.

[𝙳𝚊𝚎𝚖𝚒𝚎𝚗🐺 @Ragnaar888]

People have been reporting it for so long. The actual milage drop is around 25%.

[Nitin Nain @nitinnain]

I don’t think BJP understands what a PR disaster E20 petrol has been for them.
It might not come up in day-to-day conversations, but people sense the incredible rot and corruption in their methods.

[Nitin Nain @nitinnain]

@st5990 @MihirkJha Someday you will be in that situation and an idiot like you will come and comment about how cool the hottie in the background is. send smileys then

[Nitin Nain @nitinnain]

@nobrokercom @NoBrokerCare spamming people with outbound AI calls!

[Nitin Nain @nitinnain]

@nachiket1982 Thanks for doing this @nachiket1982 . people like you are the few who bring some hope to our country.

[Nikhil Pahwa @nixxin]

So, NetNeutrality issues are gonna blow up again in India in 4-5 months (or less). Jio's up to something, TRAI seems turned. Very 2014 vibe.

Consider this an early warning.

Someone else will have to pick up the gauntlet. Am tired of having to push back on shit all the time.

[Nitin Nain @nitinnain]

350cc and smaller bikes are taxed lower by a new tax law.
The intl market is competing on the 450-500cc Adv bikes.
With this indian manufacturers will optimize sales for smaller bikes: and we will again lose market just as we were getting competitive :/

[Nitin Nain @nitinnain]

@urbancompany_UC I’m tired of contacting yiur chat support via app for 3 days — an AI “Ria” says hello and to wait for real person and then there’s no reply.
It’s his is just unacceptable for a company whose whole purpose is providing service!

[Nitin Nain @nitinnain]

Everytime Modi shouts “Sab changa si” in his rallies, I chuckle a little bit.
It translates to “Everything was ok”. “si” is past tense!
Yes mister, we agree!
Why are you like this 😭

[Nitin Nain @nitinnain]

@nkk_123 This was proposed at Indirapuram/Vasundhara (near Noida) too. Thankfully people protested and the project was shelved.
The protest slogan was, “Udan-khatola nahi chahiye, nahi chahiye” 😀

[Nitin Nain @nitinnain]

@INCIndia I don’t support the current govt, but you should just chill out. As if the Indian news media doesn’t do enough churlish stunts and damage to the country’s reputation. Now you can’t contain yourself from being absolute babies either?

[Nitin Nain @nitinnain]

@IndianGems_ Not one day goes by without seeing some horrendous govt inaction 😞

[Nitin Nain @nitinnain]

@gemsofbabus_ Amit Shah was at Chandigarh — streets were full of posters and several roads closed which caused terrible jams.Public suffered. Their runbooks are so dated and terrible 😞

[Nitin Nain @nitinnain]

@jigneshmevani80 The “strict punishment“ is a 15 day suspension and them back to same behaviour. High time govt officials start getting terminations