@ArminCFC_@kela9123 4) You’re saying it’s not comparable but entirely minimising the pressure Fed was under.
He had a chance to win what most people would say would have been the most impressive slam of all time.
Both had the crowd on their side, both had a ludicrous draw, only one lost in 3.
@ArminCFC_@kela9123 3) Djokovic was #1 in 2019 and the age GAP is irrelevant.
The age matters.
Taking #1 Nole to 5 sets at 38 eclipses anything Nole has done at 38, especially on grass.
He was a vastly superior grass player whose grandad years rivalled Nole’s second prime.
@ArminCFC_@kela9123 2) Novak didn’t duck Federer on purpose.
For example, pre-prime Novak made it to 3 USO semis or finals in a part of Fed’s prime, and lost all of them.
He didn’t do that at RG or Wim. But post-prime Fed was far better at making it to Novak in the draw, giving Nole MORE wins.
@ArminCFC_@kela9123 1) None of this refutes what I said. Fed has a lengthy history of, put simply, arrogance.
He is NOT the type to admit he’s past it, because he believed he was the GOAT for his entire career.
I accept this is a point neither of us can prove, but I believe you’re wrong.
@ArminCFC_@kela9123 3) Novak didn’t have to be in his peak to still hold an obscene advantage over an actual 38 y/o on his 2nd knee surgery.
4) ‘Crowd advantage’ is hilarious 😭
Weird how Djokovic had the crowd fully on his side for USO ‘21 and lost then?
What a dumb list of points.
@ArminCFC_@kela9123 This is just a host of horrendous points.
1) Do you honestly expect an ageing pro to admit they’re ageing lol? Awful point.
2) 2017 Federer was great, Novak also ducked him. Happened over and over, that’s why they played over TWICE as much post 2012 as they did before.
@ArminCFC_@kela9123 Tennis isn’t your strong suit, man. Stick to Hazard.
Losing 3-1 to 2012 Federer and being taken to 5 in ‘14 + ‘19 is a bad look.
They’re like Federer’s 5-9th best grass years, max, compared to Nole’s peak.
Salah just outperformed KDB in the same position for once, with KDB’s exact injury but worse, in a 10x more inferior team.
At every phase of their careers, when you level the playing field between them, Salah pretty much always prevails individually.
Phenomenal playa. 🇪🇬
@onysera1 If you swap Liverpool’s second half of the season with their first (Salah goes nuts in the second) - City still win with KDB also having his swapped and going crazy in the first.
As you said, that only applies if things are equal. Things weren’t equal because City were better.
@onysera1 Basically, the ‘title race’ was an illusion. There wasn’t one.
KDB’s best form didn’t = his team’s best form,
Salah’s best form didn’t = his team’s best form.
Remove their seasons and the outcome doesn’t change.
2/2
@onysera1 There’s no way to make any comparison of which was more important?
Liverpool averaged 2 pts p/game for 21 matches with Salah going super saiyan.
If he hadn’t been there, City genuinely win the PL by January (like 19/20 Pool) and KDB’s second half doesn’t matter.
1/2
@onysera1 I’m saying the half of the season had zero meaning.
If it was neck and neck the whole season, with their form overlapping, a stronger second half would mean something.
When the TEAMS were winning MORE at KDB and Salah’s worst, there isn’t a more important half of the season.
@onysera1 The half of the season has 0 meaning for 21/22?
City were 10+ points clear of Liverpool in KDB’s bad slump, then narrowly won at his best.
Vice versa, Liverpool went within one in Salah’s slump, 10+ behind at his best.
Neither was a carryjob, the team was the main event.
@onysera1 Well we have to do stats because we clearly differ in our perceptions.
If I say Salah looked far better at his peak in 21/22 than KDB, you’ll disagree, won’t you?
Then there’s literally nothing left for either of us to debate. It’s just your eyes vs mine, at that point.
@onysera1 The UCL is just icing on the cake, Salah had 25 G/A in 20 PL games averaging almost 2.5 dribbles.
So a bigger sample size than KDB, with better output, and the most he’s ever passed the eye test?
It doesn’t matter what WE think, the PROFESSIONALS chose Salah 😭
@onysera1 In the last line you deadarse ran from your own point 😭
Rise 33 G/A in 26 PL + UCL matches at 2 dribbles per 90, an Old Trafford hattrick, brace + MOTM at Wanda, best Citypool game individual performance ever, etc
KDB 21/22 was legendary lol, just 2nd best
@onysera1 Every time they’ve gone head to head individually for PFA POTY, KDB has lost.
That’s TWO of KDB’s Top 3 seasons EVER where Salah was also nominated and beat him.
Please explain to me where that individual dominance from KDB is coming exactly, brother. 👍🏼