@levelsio@paulg@PalmerLuckey Paul is a good person...done nothing but foster innovation Coinbase, Stripe, Reddit, Airbnb etc. just to name a few
Palmer, all I know built a VR gadget, got booted from the valley, now found a divisive racist echo chamber on X spewing his BS.
in case you missed, here is a gist
Palmer says, we should hire only Americans and not based on merit.
Also, Palmer says he hired 8 visa holders.
when asked why did you give them these 8 jobs...below is the rant.
Investors like Paul want the immigration debate to be strictly polar because it is the only way their traitorous ideas might seem reasonable.
They paint one side as racist, backwards, economically illiterate absolutists and the other as enlightened, growth-minded cosmopolitian realists. Support for laws that protect American citizens can be dismissed as uneducated, anyone who hires immigrants or foreigners in any capacity a hypocrite.
American law should, and does, advantage American citizens. We should not have to compete on an even playing field with billions of people who almost universally don't share our values or respect our institutions, even if they are "the most qualified" or willing to work double the hours for the same wages. The men running Operation Paperclip did not think Americans should have to compete with the entire Third World, they understood that a carefully controlled amount of highly-skilled expert immigration is net good for America even when allegience is in question.
It is worth noting that even on a purely economic level, ignoring all burdens of loyalty or allegiance to your countrymen and treating America as nothing but an economic activity zone, it still doesn't make sense to say without qualification that foreigners should get any job where they are more qualified than their American counterpart.
As just one easy example out of dozens, about 20% of immigrants return home after less than five years, taking all their savings and vested shares with them. Another 20% will leave within ten years, doing the same. All the while, they will wire, on average, ~15% of their wages out of the United States economy every month. Some occupations and origins average 30%! The idea that this should be completely ignored with regard to employment and immigration policy is rampant among the same people who tell you with a straight face that limits on immigrants will destroy the American economy, that the dumb rednecks need to be saved.
I lean very libertarian and have strongly supported immigration to America for many years with countless public examples. That doesn't put me on the same side as the men who want to sell out America, and no amount of long-past accomplishment obliges any of us to listen to their lectures from the other side of the Atlantic.
again, you did not answer a simple question: how exactly are you evaluating for these “values”?
And if you’re still wondering why people who support legal immigration are pushing back, take a moment to read the replies I’ve got and ask yourself why so many RACISTS seem to be among your staunchest supporters.
That’s another simple question worth answering for yourself.
Except for the first two paragraphs, where you're just making shit up, I don't disagree with much you say here. The one thing that seems dubious is the point about employees sending money home. I don't see how you'd actually act on that in practice. Would you discriminate against people from poor countries merely on the suspicion that they might wire some of their salary home? Surely not.
I'm happy to hear you say that you strongly support immigration to America. I think many of your followers would be horrified by this stance, if they read that far, but I agree with you. In fact I don't think our positions on immigration are all that different.
Which raises the question: why did you waste all our time by starting this fight over nothing? All I said was "I believe the most qualified person should get the job." I said that in 2023 when nutjobs on the far left were trying to ban it as a "microagression." It seemed a good time to say it again now that nutjobs on the far right are saying that immigrants shouldn't be employed at all.
Elon retweeted it. You, instead, replied with a straw man, which you then retweeted (really dude?) to draw in all your followers.
I don't get what your problem is with me. I can only guess that I must have gotten the better of you in some past exchange, or spoken slightingly of some group you identify with.
Your worry that I'm trying to draw you into an admission that will get you in legal trouble is pure paranoia. I swear I'm not, and in fact have no idea what kind of legal trouble you're even talking about. I was merely trying to get you to admit that you support the hiring of immigrants. Which you have just done here, since presumably if you strongly support immigration, you're not proposing that these immigrants should be unemployable.
But honestly, what is your problem? You seem to be good at making military hardware, but weirdly inconsistent in the character and/or judgement departments. If I were you I'd pause and take a look at yourself, because problems of that type tend to get worse with time.
your long-winded rants in response to simple questions are telling.
America was built by immigrants, the best, brightest, and most productive people from around the world. I’m an immigrant here on a visa. Very Thankful for what America gave me!
You can call yourself whatever you want, but this rhetoric is nothing more than a dog whistle for racists on this platform. Either you’re genuinely uninformed or intentionally misleading people.
Grow up!
@PalmerLuckey@paulg Palmer still didn’t answer PG’s simple, straightforward questions.
Anduril is a defense contractor, and there are legal constraints around hiring people who require visas. If those constraints didn’t exist, that number would likely be a LOT higher.
@TravisHoium Travis, I genuinely don't understand your hate on OPEN. You seem like a glorified bean counting investor...weren't you pumping Zillow with all your ignorant super app bull crap?
The users who complain about the flaws in your product may seem annoying, but they are on the whole probably your most valuable users. They complain because they care, and I doubt a startup could ever get really big without users who care a lot about the product.
Most people look at @Opendoor and see a company that buys and sells homes.
I see a company trying to modernize one of the most inefficient consumer transactions in America.
Buying or selling a home still involves agents, lenders, title companies, escrow, inspections, paperwork, delays, and thousands of dollars in fees. For a transaction worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, the experience is surprisingly fragmented.
The opportunity for Opendoor isn't just the homes it buys.
It's the friction it can remove.
That's the part of the story that I find most interesting.
if you've listened to @nejatian speak, it's hard not to come away with what Opendoor is trying to build.