@SheilaGreenfiel@Generalvondeath@rich_toronto One side doesn't want that? Which side? I'd argue Israel doesn't want that, considering that multiple polls have shown that they want Palestinians removed from Gaza and the West Bank. And btw, remember the Palestinians are the ones who were displaced in 1948 and occupied since
@DexterM77204121@Pie1984Red@Generalvondeath@rich_toronto The land has been home to Jews and Arabs alike for centuries. The problem is that people just think it should be the land that the Jews alone should have. Most people believe that they should both be able to live in peace on the land, but Israel's occupation is the main obstacle
@DexterM77204121@Pie1984Red@Generalvondeath@rich_toronto The Israeli support for ethnic cleansing is definitely worrying. They need to be deradicalised, as this thought process feeds to the far right fascism in Israel that has only gotten worse
@DexterM77204121@Pie1984Red@Generalvondeath@rich_toronto I don't really think returning to Europe is the point, I get how Ashkenazi Jews came from Europe after the Holocaust, but I don't know if it's as simple as saying they could return to Europe. The logistics of this would be very difficult to do
@wisdomnoemotion@rich_toronto Ukraine's people were allowed to escape and right of return hasn't been a big issue like it has for Palestinians. Russia has had low birth rates for decades, so these are the same reasons. The systematic human shields argument has been debunked already, just a bs talking point
@Pie1984Red@DexterM77204121@Generalvondeath@rich_toronto This Dexter is making an idiotic point, that most pro Palestinians disagree with. The land overall should be for Israelis and Palestinians alike. Whether it's a one state, 2 state, a confederation? Whatever the people want, as long as all people are safe and free
@SheilaGreenfiel@Generalvondeath@rich_toronto I'm not saying that at all. I want equality for Israelis and Palestinians alike. Wanting equality and freedom for all isn't saying ethnic cleansing was fine before. This is just nonsensical
@Generalvondeath@rich_toronto No that would also be wrong, what kind of point is that? Israel is the one doing the ethnic cleansing, so it needs to stop. It's pretty simple
@NancyMace It isn't tho you weirdo. There is no Sharia law in America. In the UK Sharia courts are civil courts only that have no impact on UK law. The fear mongering is ridiculous
@Texasitman@rich_toronto Israeli settlements in the West Bank are illegal under international law. An occupying power cannot expand their own population on occupied land, as this is a war crime
@Texasitman@rich_toronto Palestinians not being citizens in the point. They are treated like 2nd class citizens in their own land. The 1922 mandate protected native rights, then the ruling was superseded by the Geneva convention anyway, so this point is incorrect
@wisdomnoemotion@rich_toronto Well considering the population of Gaza has decreased by 10% since October 7th, I would disagree. Not to mention that they've repeatedly pushing Palestinians into smaller areas over the years. They've openly talking about doing it in Gaza, & this is what settlements are for in WB
@Rhino787@EdenRuminski Yes and Jews living on the land is also what I want. It's about peaceful coexistance. They both live there, they both need equal say on what happens. It isn't complicated, you just want Palestinians to go away a d for Israelis to have all the land. You just don't get it
@NPARGH@elephballerina@TedMoondust Evidence for the discrimination being the 2018 Nation State law, or the Death Penalty law that was passed this year. Palestinians in office is a token gesture, as they are banned from pushing for equality for all Palestinians
@NPARGH@elephballerina@TedMoondust Having a minorities of Palestinians inside Israel doesn't justify an ethnic cleansing or a genocide, they're targeting the population in Gaza. They've said it themselves. And btw, there's strong claims that these Palestinians in Israel are discriminated against as well
Just another inconvenient fact:
Arabs make up 21% of Israelโs population. Across 22 Arab nations, Jews make up less than 0.002%.
If Israel was trying to ethnically cleanse or genocide Gaza why are they allowing more than 2 million Arabs to live in Israel, serve in the military and in political office?