It’s so sad to see Bears fans be so disingenuous about what last in the NFC North means right now. It’s embarrassing. It’s not hard to acknowledge that every team in the NFC North is really good and that 1 game separates 1st from 4th.
I remember posting this at the start of the season and Packers fans were up in arms over it.
Here we are months later, Caleb Williams on top of the division, Jordan Love still at the bottom in purgatory.
I’d be kind of shocked if 4 players here don’t make the Hall of Fame, most to least likely feels like
1) PCA
2) Junior Caminero
3) Elly De La Cruz
4) Jackson Chourio
5) Jackson Merrill
“the best player on the planet” had the same amount of hits in the playoffs as the “best offensive and defensive team in the sport by far” had playoff wins this October 😫
@nickyg0519@blakecowellx ‘93 was 8 years before it’s believed that he was cheating. PCA did not have the best season of all time. It’s ok. You can still enjoy it a lot.
@blakecowellx Ok. Fair take, but you should maybe start saying “since 1947”, then.
‘93 (and more) Barry Bonds clears ‘26 PCA very easily. He did this thing where he didn’t strike-out more often than he got a hit. He also walked way more than he struck out. Maybe you didn’t realize
Jordan Love throws 4 balls every game that hit DBs in the hands and are dropped. Caleb Williams does it once and the DBs all turned into prime Megatron.
There’s levels to this, and Love has a long way to go to catch up to Williams.
@Gus_thegreek25@Ddchops1 I mean, JL is an obvious MVP candidate at this time, whether you include him on your list or not. Stroud has been good but Texans are 3-5. Goff is not best player on his offense. The top 5 is very clear on any gambling website you look at.
@theGrassNinjah I mean, let’s be real. I think JL is better because I’m a GB fan. You think CW is better because you’re a Bears fan. There are unbiased analysts that would agree with both of us. They both have won one playoff game. I’d say Caleb’s win was less convincing than Jordan’s.
It’s about time fans of both teams admit that both Luther Burden and Matthew Golden are both very good.
Jordan Love and Caleb Williams are also both very good. Jordan is just better. 😂
Absolutely insane to see #gopackgo defend Jordan Love for MVP this morning. I gave Love credit yesterday. I also am an analyst and was realistic that Caleb lost his shot because he couldn't have any mistakes after missing 3 games with injury.
It really is simple:
- Nobody will vote for Love when he's 29th in accuracy.
- Nobody will vote for Love when his team is in last place.
- Nobody will vote for Love when his passer rating is below 100
It's not the sleight on Love you think it is. He just isn't as good as the other 4 MVP candidates. He's an ok starter that can lob moon balls where LeFleur has him practice hitting them, but he's not special like the other QB's.
Caleb Williams worked himself out of MVP consideration today. And that's ok. He's young. He's only in year 3, not like he's in year 7.
There's only 4 QB's that should be taken seriously as MVP:
- Joe Burrow 40%
- Josh Allen 40%
- Brock Purdy 15%
- Trevor Lawrence 5%
If you're saying any other names, you're just a homer for your own team or being delusional about your QB being better than he is. That doesn't mean they're not good quality starting, even franchise quarterbacks.
I think it was your guy shitting down his leg against TB (at home) cuz he threw 4 picks? Lmfao — we all saw it
Not Jordan’s best game (@ TB) but he had a 98 rating .. I think we can agree that’s fine.
The mighty Jordan Love scored 17 points against this Bucs defense and was shitting down his leg in the fourth quarter of that game.
Packers fans can stfu.