"Duty then is the sublimest word in the English language. You should do your duty in all things. You can never do more. You should never wish to do less."
@JustinUSA I'm no fan of any of the people he just called out as traitors, but are Mike Johnson and John Thune the kind of GOP that Ben wants? My goodness.
@GabrielHudelson@JoelWebbon No fan of Joel Webbon, but how on Earth is America not entitled to want to preserve its ethnic demography? Does the same argument apply to the rest of the world? If not, why not? Why is America the exception?
@Ciscrusader1@KaiserLoengramm Vance is talking about immigrants forming enclaves and engaging in ethnic nepotism. If you thought he was gonna come out and endorse white nationalism, or that it would be productive to do so, you're way off mark.
@Hopelesserain Also I love the "Free Haiti/Somalia/Mali/Cameroon etc etc" bit as if these countries are being oppressed and not suffering from their own dysfunction. The implication of course being that an evil white man is behind it all.
@jeremykauffman@Devon_Eriksen_ Thank you for being one of the voices not pretending this is an either/or thing. We don't need to spit on the Founding ethos and ideals to uphold the ethnic particularity of America's people.
@JoelWBerry Joel, the issue lies in the denial of the importance of shared heritage and the vital role it plays in a nation's attitude towards its traditions, myths and political principles. Propositionalism, like communism, may work in theory but has given us multiculturalism in reality.
@JamesSurowiecki "I know I'm a Yankee..." Then you'd be wise to follow the example of your forebears. The aftermath of a war between brothers was handled with great care, delicacy and grace. "With malice toward none, with charity for all..."
This is a particularly poor line of reasoning; there's no reason to think even acceptance of "HBD" would lead to meritocracy or abolition of DEI regime - in fact, there's more reason to think the exact opposite: If people are born unequal then why not use gov to force equality on them?
This is problem types like Hanania or Cofnas or others have. They seem to think that you can just tell some aggrieved minority that has weaponized resentment towards you that "you're dumb" and University system will be fixed. Not going to work.
This will be an unpopular opinion on the Right but I think this is kind of dumb, even as a troll. Lake Ontario was given that name on maps by European explorers long before the Canadian province of Ontario was named. There are several cities in America called Ontario -- at least one of them predating the Canadian province by like 100 years -- because the word originates with native tribes in North America. It's not a Canadian invention. Canadians never uniquely owned the lake or the name. So in effect all you're doing here is actually giving them credit for a thing that wasn't theirs to begin with. Yeah it's funny when Canadians are upset I guess or whatever, but Lake Ontario, the name itself, is *American* history dating back many centuries. Not sure how you own Canada by deleting your own history.
if you’ve ever seen something bad happen in alabama or mississippi or tennessee or georgia or any other southern or appalachain state and thought to yourself “that’s what they get” you don’t get to mourn dolly parton. i hope this helps.
They want to drag us into decade 50,000 of debating “ideas” about “planned economies” or whatever else, because “debating” “ideas” preserves the comforting implication that everything can ultimately be sorted out through argument in the marketplace of ideas. Your opponent can always, at least in theory, be persuaded to adopt your position.
This has never happened, and it never will. But these types have a remarkable attachment to theories that make perfect sense on paper even when they repeatedly fail to map onto reality, don’t they? There is comfort in that abstraction because it allows them to imagine politics as an intellectual exercise — maybe a hobby —rather than a genuine contest between people with conflicting interests. They fear the latter because it would mean a real fight.
Questions of identity are much different than questions they like. They mean that ultimately some people are going to be excluded.
Even when they kind of have these discussions, in reducing America to an “ism,” they never follow the Propositional Nation to its logical conclusion in demanding that those insufficiently committed to “our ideals” should be denaturalized and deported. God forbid anyone ever be excluded! :(
Those kinds of genuinely exclusionary things have a way of stepping on toes that that these people are temperamentally if not biologically incapable of weathering, as cowards. They only “fight” when it’s kayfabe.
Notice too what has happened over the past decade as our conflicts have become increasingly real. Almost all of these people have sided with their supposed enemies.
When a real fight breaks out, they side with the establishment to crush the disruption and resume the show.
@ThomBrady5 The framing of American history here is also quite something. Westward pioneers sought to expand their people's territory and chase opportunity and adventure, they weren't fleeing civilizational decline. Using their legacy to dismiss young peoples concerns is just incredible.