@raizumichin@JoyAnnReid "There is no 'pro-life movement'"
Sounds like she's bloody well making it about all pro-lifers to me, as she is attacking the very concept of being pro-life.
@Opsimath57 @MScott34@KristanHawkins 3/2 you can make a case that no matter how valuable or full-fledged the human life is, women simply have a right to abort anyway, because of privacy and autonomy, at any point throughout the nine months. Most people don't agree with that though.
@Opsimath57 @MScott34@KristanHawkins 2/2 But the question of the embryo/fetus/baby's humanity and worth does also matter in the abortion debate. That's why people on both sides argue about it and why abortion laws bother drawing limits on how far along the pregnancy can be.
@Opsimath57 @MScott34@KristanHawkins I get what you're saying. Establishing the value/humanity of the fetus doesn't address the issue of the rights of the mother to privacy and autonomy. 1/2
@Opsimath57 @MScott34@KristanHawkins Whether the woman has the right to abort isn't what I'm contesting here. I'm making 1 point: you said "no one is killing babies. That would be infanticide."
I'm saying: a third trimester pregnancy is a baby. In a late term abortion, rare as they may be, it is killed. 1/2
Elon, I hope you read this, though you probably won't, but it's worth a shot.
I'm not going to try to convince you one way or another that hell exists or doesn't.
But if it does exist, it probably conforms to what the major Abrahamic religions teach about the damned, which is:
@Almisehal Thank you for the blessing, but I’m ok with going to hell, if that is indeed my destination, since the vast majority of all humans ever born will be there.
@Opsimath57 @MScott34@KristanHawkins No. I took a lot of time and words to try to make a point clearly, without wasting any because of the character limit. I was focusing on the nature of a late-term pregnancy baby, and the distinction between nature and semantics. There was no time or room for anything else.
@Opsimath57 @MScott34@KristanHawkins 2/2 simply put, I've spent the whole time writing and trying to articulate what I DID write; I didn't "choose not to do that." I was simply preoccupied trying to wade through the semantic and non-semantic confusion of our discussion. I do care about women a lot.
@Opsimath57 @MScott34@KristanHawkins In the amount of tweets I made, I would be hard-pressed to get across everything I said and talk about the situation of women faced with a late term pregnancy they're considering terminating - their rights, the pressures around them, etc. 1/2
@Opsimath57 @MScott34@KristanHawkins 3/2
I think you got that I was "erasing women" in a large part because I asked "what difference does it make?" I meant what difference does it make regarding the nature of the baby itself, not what difference does it make re: whether the woman has the right to abort.