odd 🦡 | #tvlspoilers

if u hate me it's probably bc i lesbified your fav | | my fics will make u pume | priv (moots only): @pumebadger

[odd 🦡 | #tvlspoilers @odderstuffao3]

@localcryptid00 also the OCD thing i seriously think they brought up because that appears to actually be what they specialise in and therefore they CAN speak with some authority on it, so they've shoehorned it in to make themself sound more knowledgeable

[odd 🦡 | #tvlspoilers @odderstuffao3]

not even on any proship antiship bs, just psychologist to psychologist: this is VERY evidently not your area of specialisation and it is WILDLY unprofessional for you to position yourself as an authority on it and make the kinds of broad stroke generalisations you do here

[Elle 🦇 @gothamcityelle]

as an actual therapist who also is heavily involved in fandom spaces, I am going to make this thread about proshippers + their arguments for protecting pedophilia.

tldr: consuming + being consistently aroused by fictional fantasies of children is textbook, clinical pedophilia 🧵

[odd 🦡 | #tvlspoilers @odderstuffao3]

@localcryptid00 they're posting that "proshipping" is inherently indicative of a paraphilic disorder (which is a hell of an assertion in itself) and simultaneously presenting it as an innate moral failing which is an alarming statement from a professional

[odd 🦡 | #tvlspoilers @odderstuffao3]

@CrippleJesus121 i absolutely take and agree with your point and think it's a valid one to make. i'm just personally more hung up on the flagrant lack of understanding of paraphilic disorders whilst trying to position themself as an authority on them

[odd 🦡 | #tvlspoilers @odderstuffao3]

@tomalou46 & yes those are terms that are used but idk why they wouldn't just say that instead of using vaguely jargon-y terms like "clinical language" unless they were trying to present themselves as a real authority on something they don't seem to have a very thorough understanding of

[odd 🦡 | #tvlspoilers @odderstuffao3]

@tomalou46 i genuinely think that the "clinical language & distinction" they are referring to is the concept of offending pedophiles (i.e. those who physically act on pedophilic attraction) vs non offending (i.e. those who experience pedophilic attraction but don't physically act on it)

[katie 🟨 | #1 AKASHAWIFE @sevlillies]

armand loves breasts so much he hit the gym and grew some himself

[odd 🦡 | #tvlspoilers @odderstuffao3]

@markamatony it's not my field so don't take my word as gospel but as far as i understand it paraphilic disorders are assessed on a case by case basis and treated with a combination of therapeutic & medicinal (where appropriate) techniques & followed up w long term monitoring

[odd 🦡 | #tvlspoilers @odderstuffao3]

@tropotropotropo she seems to be doing some kind of weird Schrodingers Paraphile cognitive dissonance wherein people w paraphilic disorders are both unwell people deserving of support and kindness & harmful criminals deserving of shunning and scorn. it's very strange.

[odd 🦡 | #tvlspoilers @odderstuffao3]

@tropotropotropo they're doing heavy backpedalling now saying that they would treat a person who came to them with a paraphilic disorder with empathy and kindness and offer them support and i fear they are in for a big shock if anybody with such a disorder ever does cross their threshold

[odd 🦡 | #tvlspoilers @odderstuffao3]

@Larpyyarpy this is why i generally refuse to engage in pro/antiship discourse and refuse to adopt either label for myself. it's a more nuanced topic than anybody from either side of the debate wants to admit

[odd 🦡 | #tvlspoilers @odderstuffao3]

@birdsongstat agreed but also on a bad day dropping one (1) stitch or losing at yarn chicken could tip him over the edge i think

[odd 🦡 | #tvlspoilers @odderstuffao3]

which of the Main Four Guys is most likely to knit do you guys think

[odd 🦡 | #tvlspoilers @odderstuffao3]

nickistat spooning lestat little spoon send tweet

[L @gun_batman]

Steddie are idiot4idiot

[puossy shlayer @softtitwarmtit]

Regardless of proship or anti-proship discourse (which I think is the stupidest thing ever), the information given here is factually wrong 💀 this person is interpreting the DSM-5 criteria, not directly stating what it actually says.

[odd 🦡 | #tvlspoilers @odderstuffao3]

i have a new wave of oomfs since i last did this and i am curious what u guys think & also have fomo what energy do i give don't spoil it if u know

[🌸 romeo 🌸 BOOK OUT NOW 🦄👑 @pavaal]

shockingly irresponsible thread that fails to account for so many elements on both an argumentative level and also a “posting things in public level” i struggle to put them all in a tweet. OP please consider that

[odd 🦡 | #tvlspoilers @odderstuffao3]

@believeinalien4 genuinely frightening thought

[odd 🦡 | #tvlspoilers @odderstuffao3]

@Seleksa_ we are so on the same wavelength
https://t.co/NS8bbYdiDs

[odd 🦡 | #tvlspoilers @odderstuffao3]

@D33RANON yeah just pointing at DSM-5 diagnostic criteria in isolation with no applied nuance or further academic resources to back up their point also doesn't fill me with much confidence in re to their professionalism

[odd 🦡 | #tvlspoilers @odderstuffao3]

@mortuiviventes_ also just bc it CAN be healthy as a coping mechanism for some doesn't mean it is for everybody and some people do use consumption of that sort of media as a form of self harm. like i said, it's not exactly one thing or the other & there's more nuance than twitter allows.

[odd 🦡 | #tvlspoilers @odderstuffao3]

@mortuiviventes_ however i think it's equally disingenuous to say that creating art/fiction with those themes is NEVER indicative of ill intent/irl harm & there have certainly historically been artists & writers who create fictional depictions of those things *and* do them irl/