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@Chris_Hadrick2 @gummibear737 And neither does appeasing Iran, Russia and China. Its really strange how many internet retards like you refuse to extend this logic to our actual enemies.

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@Chris_Hadrick2 @gummibear737 long term, appeasement doesnt work. they will build leverage, and then take over the strait and do other things too. Even right now, we can blockade them and wait them out and there's nothing they can do about it. But with enough leverage. we have no options and what then?

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@Chris_Hadrick2 @gummibear737 With too much leverage for example they could shut down the strait and there's nothing we can do. Right now we still have a military option if necessary, but we could lose that too and have nothing

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@Z4BTC_ thats true but even then, they still wont WANT most guys. they will see its necessary and do it if they need to but they still wont actually WANT most guys. You cant beat genetics

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@gummibear737 The reasoning behhind the MOU is we want cheaper gas prices. thats it.

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@Chris_Hadrick2 @gummibear737 "powerful in their region" you mean holding it hostage with terrorism and threats. If its goes against our interests, we shouldnt just let that happen.

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@Chris_Hadrick2 @gummibear737 You dont want them to gain too much leverage

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@Chris_Hadrick2 @gummibear737 No shit

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@Chris_Hadrick2 @gummibear737 what he's doing has nothing to do with whether he agrees or not. There's a reality to the economics of this and the opinion of the american public. he has no choice

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@Chris_Hadrick2 @gummibear737 If they weren't an aggressive terrorist state yes, but they are. they are not north korea.

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@Bob_Joober @gummibear737 what would you have done?

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@gummibear737 what do you expect "the world" to do?

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@Chris_Hadrick2 @gummibear737 you dont need to attack continental US to do damage, as they just illustrated. They have the power to shut down the global economy. You need to maintain flexibility with them.

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@Artzee_eff @gummibear737 of course we knew about the strait, Iran has always had that card to play it isnt new. If you're suggesting we should never attack them ever no matter what because of that, then you're giving immunity to them. thats exactly what you want to avoid. You need to keep them in check

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@Artzee_eff @gummibear737 its easy to have that opinion now but you dont have the benefit of hindsight in advance. Trump tried something new.

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@Artzee_eff @gummibear737 Doing nothing is a bad option too, thats what people dont understand

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@SpeedRacerJak @gummibear737 at some point you need the rest of the world to also contribute to holding iran accountable. They're actions dont just impact the USA

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@Mankosmash @gummibear737 the iranian people arent our enemies

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@Artzee_eff @gummibear737 I support dealing with Iran in a limited way that doesnt involve troops and minimizes casualties. Maybe nothing was better than a half measure, but a half measure is better than an all out ugly invasion or operatiion that is too involved.