A lot more of the conspiracy crowd are going to start turning on each other soon:
“I only reported it because X said it”
“I trusted that Y did their research, I never would have said that otherwise”
“I wish I had known Z just made that up, I am so sorry”
Candace Owens is up to her usual tricks.
She has no intentions to debate about her Charlie Kirk conspiracies.
ALWAYS READ THE FINE PRINT.
Just in case you haven’t noticed she’s trying to use the same tactics that Stew Peters used against Andrew Wilson.
She says she’s debating the case against Tyler Robinson.
Here’s what she actually means by that…
She REFUSES to stand by her own claims and will not DEBATE about any of her theories or accusations.
So Fort Huachuca, Egyptian planes, French paratroopers wearing maroon, and time traveling X-Men schools are all off the table.
Why?
Because Candace knows all of that stuff is fake and will never hold up in a debate.
Earlier today Candace Owens posted what she called her “final offer” for a debate on the case against Tyler Robinson and the surrounding evidence regarding Charlie Kirk’s assassination.
She rejected the previous counter (neutral ground + $500k each via crowdfund) and instead offered to accept the original $300k, but only if the debate takes place in her studio. She agreed to Michael Knowles as moderator, said Wilson can bring his own team of three for the control room, claimed no time limit, and said she is available this week.
Andrew has replied seeking basic clarification so there is no ambiguity:
1. Timing: It is Friday. Does “this week” mean next week? Would next Friday work?
2. Topic & format: Are all of her claims about Tyler Robinson and the Kirk assassination on the table? Does each side get at least one full hour of cross-examination? (Andrew is prepared to propose openings and rebuttals if needed.)
3. Length: Confirming the debate is 3.5 hours, minimum.
4. Logistics: Confirming he can bring three people, including his own camera operator.
These are straightforward questions. Once they are answered clearly, we can move forward.
The Crucible will update as soon as a response is received.
Can just clearly hear you say that you understand you ALSO have to defend your claims you have made in both this case and about the Kirk assasination? Also I know unlimited time I just want to clearly hear at least 3 and half hours. Just avoiding confusion if possible.
In Greece, we hate Islam more than anything. But there is a reason for that. It's called: Greek history.
Lebanon and the entire Middle East have experienced for centuries the true face of Islam. That Islam which does not hide behind the lies it needs in order to invade the West as a religion of love and wisdom, but as what it really is: a political ideology full of death, hatred, and destruction.
I know many of you will wonder how I can know the true face of Islam. Well, of course all Greeks know, because all of our ancestors suffered martyrdoms for their faith and their origin. That is why the Greeks love and care for the Christian communities of the Middle East, and you should know that if it were in our hands, Greece would protect these peoples from barbaric Islam at the first opportunity.
Reading @GadSaad 's post, I could not help but think of the countless moments of modern Greek history, when from the fall of Constantinople until 1821 the Greeks lived through the worst period of their lives. Enslaved for almost 400 years under the monster of Islam, which stole, raped, murdered, and tortured in the most horrific ways the Greek Christians who lived throughout Asia Minor (Anatolia), Pontus, Greece, and Cyprus.
For 300 years the Muslim Turks were stealing kids from their mothers. They were waiting for women to birth, raise their kids, and then at the age of 8 were collecting them. The devşirme known as "collection of children" or "blood tax" or in Greek as "paidomazoma", was a systematic practice that forced the recruitment of young Christian boys, typically aged 8–18.
Historians estimate the total number of Christian boys taken across the entire Ottoman Empire around 300.000 kids. From those kids 150.000 were Greek kids (over 300 years). It means the half of the total kids that were stolen were only Greek. For example in 1540, a levy in the Greek regions of Thessaly & Macedonia took 1.000 Greek boys in one season and in Chios (the Greek island) 200 boys taken in 1567 alone. The peak was 5.000 kids/annual from Greece.
The most common torture inflicted by the Muslims during the Ottoman period was whipping. The usual victims were the Christians. It was the introductory torment in every other torture, so common in the persecutions of Christians that the phrase became proverbial: "I will whip you until you change your faith."
During that period, Muslims enjoyed performing all kinds of mutilations. Ears, noses, lips, tongues, breasts, and genitals were primarily cut off. Not just those, though. Let's recall here the Saint Raphael of Mytilene, who was hanged from a tree and had his lower jaw cut off, while the twelve-year-old martyr Irene was roasted in a barrel on the Tuesday of Easter in the year 1463, ten years after the fall of Constantinople.
In many cases, the severed body parts "adorned" the warrior collection of the janissary. The pashas gave bakshish (tips) to every "brave" Muslim warrior according to how many ears of "infidel" Christians he brought back. He himself confirmed his bravery and "manliness" among his peers by having a "komboloi" (worry beads) made from the nipples of breasts he had cut off from women. The bravest man was the one with the longest komboloi after a massacre and looting.
Blinding with various sharp objects was also common. This was particularly frequent during periods of massacres and atrocities. Many unfortunate Christians remained blind for the rest of their lives because they had the misfortune of a horde of janissaries passing through their land. The Egyptians under Ibrahim Pasha were especially notorious for this crime.
Many times Christian captives were placed in front of cannons that were fired, turning them into human shreds of flesh. In other cases, they were tied to galleys that sailed in opposite directions and were torn apart. Dismemberment of victims also occurred with horses.
After the Ottoman conquest of Crete (1669), local officials and governors began to oppress the Christian population in every way: killing, abducting and abusing women, demanding money, and preventing the performance of the subjects' religious duties.
We Greeks, called the Muslim Turks, "The grand masters of torture." In 1821, in Patras, they captured a father and son and, after impaling them, lit a fire and forced the other captives to roast them like lambs. Ali Pasha at that point was more inventive: When he impaled Christians, he forced their relatives to turn the spit, threatening that otherwise he would impale them too.
Immediately after the hanging of Patriarch Gregory V in Constantinople, the Turks hanged three metropolitans at various points in the city. However, one of them, the very elderly Metropolitan of Nicomedia, breathed his last before reaching the place of execution. Such, however, was the Turks' mania for revenge that they punished even the dead man by hanging his corpse.
Just 65 years after the Fall of Constantinople, Sultan Selim I Yavuz, grandson of Mehmed the Conqueror and father of Suleiman, decided to definitively abolish the Patriarchate of Constantinople during the patriarchate of Theoleptos I, and to slaughter all the subjugated Christians (rayah) of the empire who refused to convert to Mohammedanism. Just 65 years after the Fall of Constantinople, the Greeks of Thrace were collectively placed before the forced dilemma of either converting or being wiped off the face of the earth, that is, to suffer ethnic cleansing or genocide, as we would say today. Between those two barbaric options, the Greeks of Thrace (the ancestors of today’s Muslim Greeks of Thrace) chose ethnic cleansing at their own expense; that is, they chose to convert in order to survive as an ancient indigenous people, in the hope that at some point in the future their descendants would regain their national self-awareness and their religious independence, and would then voluntarily return to the bosom of the Greek Nation and of Greek Orthodoxy.
When the Greek Bishop Dionysios the Philosopher of Larissa organized a revolt against the Muslim Turks in 1611, which ended in failure, the Turks flayed him alive, stuffed his skin with straw, and paraded it from city to city. Three days later, the Turks also discovered -the Greek rebels- Deli Giorgos and Lambros. They burned Lambros alive, while they crucified Giorgos and, instead of a crown of thorns on his head, they drilled holes into which they placed feathers. Dionysios’s skin, together with the heads of 85 Greek Christian rebels, was sent to Constantinople, where it was thrown into the Sultan’s stables.
After the failure of Daskalogiannis’s uprising in Sfakia (Crete, 1770), the Turks captured him and flayed him alive, cut him in pieces and throw them in the fire and the dogs.
The Muslim Pasha of Thessaloniki, Abdul Abud, who had set as his goal the extermination of the Greeks, burned 120 villages and wiped out their inhabitants to the last one.
5.000 Greeks were massacred in Naousa, the rest were sold in slave markets, and the entire city was reduced to ashes.
The Janissaries faced no restraint in their behavior toward the Christians. They would even enter churches and desecrate them. And if they discovered a beautiful Greek girl, they would seize her from her parents in order to satisfy their lewd desires. For this reason, anyone who had a pretty daughter was forced to keep her locked inside the house, while most Greek women who lived in towns would wear a burqa when they went out, just like Muslim women.
The Janissaries also exterminate Christians without any reason, simply because they were Christians. Sometimes they executed them in cold blood in the middle of the road, just to test the accuracy of their weapons; other times to watch them writhe in their own blood; sometimes to make the abduction of a bride, right after her wedding, more dramatic; other times simply because the Christians were manly-looking, relatively well-dressed, or on horseback. In the latter case, the rayah would hurry to dismount upon seeing a Janissary, but the latter would draw his pistol and say: “Why did you dismount, you infidel dog? So you could make me ride instead?” And the rayah, Greek Christian, would fall dead.
On December 18, 1803, at Zalongo in Greece, a group of Greek Souliote women jumped from the cliffs, holding their children. They chose death over falling into the hands of Muslims, where they would face rape, abuse, and enslavement.
On March 30, 1822, the Chios Massacre took place. The Muslim Turks slaughtered (Greeks) 42,000 women, men & children. Additionally, 52,000 were sold as slaves in the markets of Smyrna & Constantinople. Young girls were raped publicly in the streets, and newlyweds in front of their husbands, who were then slaughtered. Others were raped in front of their parents, after which the men's genitals were cut off. Women over 40 were set on fire and left to burn alive. Pregnant women had their bellies ripped open and their fetuses pulled out, while small children were thrown forcefully against rocks. The frenzy of the Muslims was unprecedented.
In 1822, Muslims also captured the wives of Zafeirakis and Gatsos. The wife of Zafeirakis was built into the wall up to the neck in the church of Hagia Sophia in Thessaloniki. Maria Karatasou, daughter of a priest refused to change faith, and for this Ebub Lubut enclosed her in a sack with deadly snakes, where she martyred. Pouqueville describes in the darkest colors to the civilized world the dramatic scenes he saw with his own eyes there: "Many women naked were put up to the neck in sacks with cats, snakes, and mice…".
The Greek Christian Woman, during the years when Greece was enslaved to the Muslim Turks, in order to avoid -as much as she could- the abhorrent dishonor from the barbaric Muslims, would destroy the youthful beauty of her face, or create a family from the age of fourteen, believing that she would not give birth to slaves.
On September 1, 1821, Samothrace was devastated by the Ottomans through a general massacre led by the Turkish Kara Ali. Approximately 10,000 men & boys were slaughtered. Women & children were sold in the markets of Constantinople & Smyrna (Holocaust of Samothrace).
On June 4, 1821, the Turks carried out a massacre against the Greeks of Kydonies in Asia Minor (modern-day Ayvalık). They did pogroms at shops and homes, looting them, while seizing women and children to sell as slaves. Simultaneously, they conducted a general massacre of the population, and the town was set ablaze and completely destroyed.
On September 1955 in Constantinople 4,348 Greek businesses, 110 hotels, 27 pharmacies, 23 schools, and 73 churches were damaged or destroyed. The exodus of Greeks from Turkey, reduced the community of over 150.000 (who have already left from the Fall), to fewer than 2.000 today.
Muslims commited GENOCIDES and Islamized the Anatolia, Antioch and Seleucia.
From the Hellenism of the East (Thrace, Asia Minor, Pontus), around a million people were exterminated (1914-1924). In the Pontus region alone, 353,000 people were slaughtered. Because they stole our lands. Smyrna, Aydin, Kydonies, Prousa, Nicaea (Asia Minor region), Trebizond, Kerasounta, Samsounta, Oinoe, Paphra, Ordou, Amaseia (Pontus), provinces of Derkon, Metron, Herakleia, Myriophytou, Kallipoleos, Ainos, Tyrolois, Saranta Ekklision, Adrianople (Eastern Thrace).
I hate Islam with all my heart because I am Greek and because I know my own history.
I strongly suggest that you study my history so you can avoid these atrocities becoming your history too.
Thank you for reading me,
Homer Pavlos
If she does this, we would have 3 of the conspiratards running the exact same line, and that would be beyond Candace Owens level of coincidence to be questioned
DEBATE ROUND 2! Jay Dyer vs Jake the Muslim Metaphysician!
What is Better for Society? Christianity or Islam?
Also much discussion of Church / State relations
How can anybody hate Mackinac Island? It’s real Americana frozen in time. Ask anyone from Michigan about this and they’ll be very insulted. These people need to go live in their shit hole Mohammedan countries. They hate America and they’re only here to subvert it.
Then we have an agreement if you agree to have your claims cross examined. This debate isn't specific to just the evidence against Robinson by the state. That's improper framing. Its a debate ALSO about YOUR CLAIMS regarding this case and Kirks assasination. Do you agree you also need to support claims YOU HAVE MADE as well? If so then I agree to the terms. Also no personal attacks no ad homs. If one is made that person loses by default enforced by the moderator. Do we have terms? If so say so and we will book it for friday.
🚨 JUST NOW: President Trump confirms he DOES believe the DOJ should prosecute Dr. Fauci for contempt of Congress
"They prosecuted Peter Navarro! And they prosecuted Steve Bannon! Two VERY decent people.. over something that essentially was NEVER prosecuted before."
"What he did is FAR more serious than a lot of crimes, frankly, but they prosecuted two people when NOTHING like that has ever taken place before."
BIDEN'S DOJ SET THE PRECEDENT. Arrest Fauci!
Correct, she is going to get stapled to every one of her insane claims without mercy, but it was never about being fair, it’s about holding people to account
Islamismus: "Ich bin ein Überlebender der Scharia-Gesetze aus dem Iran“ sagt ein Christlicher Flüchtling vor dem Stadtrat in McKinney, Texas. Er warnt vor dem Bau eines riesigen Islam-Centers.