@EHPlimsoll1 @PhilWMagness His key claim is precisely that Marx was 'relatively obscure' prior to 1917. That is false, he was influential politically and intellectually, among socialists but also thinkers of all stripes across Europe.
No one is arguing about the relative influence of SPD programs vs 1917
@EHPlimsoll1 @PhilWMagness No one argues the Erfurt program is an event of the scale as 1917, the point is that being the intellectual of Germany's largest party, of France's SFIO, and the subject of critiques by the likes of Weber, Croce, and Durkheim means he wasn't some obscure or unknown intellectual
@lionel_trolling@PhilWMagness Extraordinary that even after showing him direct quotes from Weber, his wife, on top of the huge influence of Marx on the SPD (not to mention other european socialisms) @PhilWMagness just refuses to engage on any of it
@PhilWMagness@vorpolitisch What exact claim are you even trying to counter? Schmitt was highly influential in Nazi Germany, therefore highly influential on 20th C. far right discourses, and seminal for the entire tradition of 'political theology'. That anglophone citations picked up with WoT proves nothing
@hastifliche@NewLeftEViews The idea that you can act in pursuit of emancipation without resorting to any normative claims is so patently absurd, as is the idea that Marx did not have normative claims in his work (namely republican freedom as Roberts claims).
@NewLeftEViews Most of the obit writers seem understandably daunted by the task of tackling 70 years of Habermas' work. Meaney's was too biographical to dig deep enough.
The best one so far seems to be Fraser, not coincidentally the one who has spent decades critically engaging with him.
@DavidAvromBell@daniel_dsj2110@BrankoMilan My understanding is Moyn doesn't blame CWLs for any real world impact, but for distorting Liberalism. They took away its critical enlightenment edge, partly by cutting off Hegel and other continental influences
@BrankoMilan How could he have done better under the remit of the SG role? He has spoken out on wars and human rights abuses. What SG has done better?
It's the 5 SC permanent members that have sidelined the organization