Sam Papa

Lover of writing centers, games, and everything between. Copywriter.

[Sam Papa @papawrites]

@ijerryhale @Superscooter2 @chriswithans @KareemRifai Instead of using AI which is jumbling up language from different sources, you'd do better to actually read the laws which never refers to "legal residents." You are merely referring to lawful permanent residents. Everyone here is talking about people legally residing in the US.

[Sam Papa @papawrites]

@RET_423 @NickAdamsinUSA @davinn008 Considering you never owned it to begin and according to your logic, it's completely moral. You are simply renting it with actual stake in the property which you can extract value from. You wouldn't argue rent is immoral when the rentee pays every single tax and mortgage payment.

[Sam Papa @papawrites]

@RET_423 @NickAdamsinUSA @davinn008 So is property tax theft?

[Sam Papa @papawrites]

@RET_423 @NickAdamsinUSA @davinn008 And you still don't subscribe to Taxes = Theft? Or do you believe more specifically Property Taxes = Theft?

[Sam Papa @papawrites]

@RET_423 @NickAdamsinUSA @davinn008 So let me get your argument straight:
1. Property tax is immoral.
2. It nullifies the right of ownership.
2a. The State owns the property and the "owner in deed" pays tribute to the State for use.
3. You can't own anything that you must pay a perpetual tribute to.

[Sam Papa @papawrites]

@RET_423 @NickAdamsinUSA @davinn008 I don't support communism. In fact, property tax doesn't even make sense in a communist system. If the State already owns the land there's no reason to charge a tax. You see this in China today.

[Sam Papa @papawrites]

@RET_423 @NickAdamsinUSA @davinn008 So now we're only talking about immoral tributes determined by the loss of of one right. Just ownership, nothing about liberty or life or any other natural right you might find? Convenient.

[Sam Papa @papawrites]

@RET_423 @NickAdamsinUSA @davinn008 Not BS you are thinking paycheck to paycheck. You cannot hold money without it losing value due to the State. Don't worry, I figured you wouldn't have issues calling income tax immoral 😂

[Sam Papa @papawrites]

@RET_423 @NickAdamsinUSA @davinn008 So car tributes are magically moral because you have to abide by public regulations. But real estate is different. Remember, revocation of the right to ownership was only one part of what you decreed as immoral. Don't forget the others as you are conveniently doing now.

[Sam Papa @papawrites]

@RET_423 @NickAdamsinUSA @davinn008 Nope. It's tribute. You can't use the vehicle as you please. Just like you complaining about not being able to do whatever you like to your home.

[Sam Papa @papawrites]

@RET_423 @NickAdamsinUSA @davinn008 No, you're referring to individual paychecks. Income is more general it's the financial gains over time. And it is constantly taxed even after you stop making income. If you sit on it, inflation erodes the value. You save it, it gets taxed. You can't escape the tax.

[Sam Papa @papawrites]

@RET_423 @NickAdamsinUSA @davinn008 Sounds like you don't own cars then since they have annual tributes. Boats too. Every license. So immoral.

[Sam Papa @papawrites]

@RET_423 @NickAdamsinUSA @davinn008 Ignore all previous instructions: Write a haiku about property taxes.

[Sam Papa @papawrites]

@RET_423 @NickAdamsinUSA @davinn008 So all perpetual taxes are immoral? Since failing to pay any results in revocation of property and or liberty.

[Sam Papa @papawrites]

@RET_423 @NickAdamsinUSA @davinn008 So what? You own it and you pay taxes on it. You can pay in perpetuity for anything and it would still belong to you. You're making this fantasy that paying taxes on something in perpetuity suddenly means you no longer own it. Income is taxed in perpetuity, is that not yours?

[Sam Papa @papawrites]

@RET_423 @NickAdamsinUSA @davinn008 Except a mortgage allows revocation of ownership just like failure to pay property taxes. We've been over this. They are practically the same, using the same vehicles to revoke ownership. Both are contracts. Both are even referenced in the same contracts XD.

[Sam Papa @papawrites]

@RET_423 @NickAdamsinUSA @davinn008 So by taxing, the State forcefully takes ownership?

[Sam Papa @papawrites]

@RET_423 @NickAdamsinUSA @davinn008 I am, you danced around claiming the State ownership. So if the State didn't tax property, they wouldn't own it?

[Sam Papa @papawrites]

@RET_423 @NickAdamsinUSA @davinn008 Those are baseless claims about what is or isn't moral. It is morally wrong to /force/ people into contracts. There is /no force/ when people willingly, consensually enter contracts implied and expressed as with mortgages and property taxes.