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@Zorusakii @TheRecklessNara A lot of these can of course be inferred from what we knew of her character,

But there's a massive difference between being told that it happens, and seeing how it actually plays out and how it affects her even now.

These are all relevant buildup to her story

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@Zorusakii @TheRecklessNara But we didn't know that her tea parties are part of her connection with Alain, no?

Nor did we know that she still thinks of Signora now, or that she was hesitant to meet Columbina again.

Neither did we see how much she misses Pulonia, or her resolve at the end.

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@windtuition I don't think Nod-Krai was ever her homeland though (it's the Moon), nor should she consider it as one imho.

Not when you were being deified and excluded, held up as this 'other' thing.

That is a pretty big thing in her story, so I think the allegory here don't work.

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@nobahanamiki @RuanYearner Agreed, I'd bump Hyacine up with Castorice.

But it's still Cyrene in the end though. Same as how Phainon is Khaslana, Cyrene is Demiurge, just backwards.

And yeah, I think sworn brothers/rivals would be better, though I still think Aglaea should be above him.

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@Blackberrydavi8 @RuanYearner @oujicross I'm not seeing how appreciating another person's physical looks correlates to them being impactful to you as a person

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@Rainthority In that same scene, he says 'So you are a fake' or something, which is in line with the assumption above.

I do think that the real Himeko can still be alive though, and from some of the theories I've seen/thought of, this is more likely than what most people would think.

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@Rainthority I feel like this is partly a confirmed truth though. He shot the same fire-spark thing on Himeko as he did Graphia.

Graphia was made insane by it, Himeko shrugged it off as nothing.

From that, I'd assume it's his trigger to manifest Destruction, which only works if they're real

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@dawndenier It took a prophecy, several rounds of dialogues, and Cyrene literally bringing Cerydra to our memories before we got a step in the door bruh.

And even then, Cerydra still made a backup plan to doom Amphoreus in the event we lie.

I dunno if I'd even call this 'trust' lmaoo.

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@CarrotMint1 @Toaru_Occultist We've already met again years ago and now has 'annual reunions' fam lmao.

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@__yuraii2 @moongoyzer Girl, while I do think that Ruu and Kazari's quests are excellent, the Dirge of Bilqis and Aranyaka is pretty much that except for the whole patch cycle lol. As was Unfinished Comedy and the Little One's questline.

This is not even mentioning Remuria, Chasm, etc..

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@celestiellie @mikoscorner @NPad93 It's exactly because you're a vet that you think UGC and Genshin are two entirely separate things though, no?

If you're a new player, all UGC are is just new Genshin content, wouldn't it?

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@plushcel I personally quite like the 'business'-like vibe of Nod-Krai, makes the moments when they do show warmth (e.g. Columbina's festival) feel genuine.

Honestly I was expecting more animosity ngl lol, at least at the start, but eh it still makes sense and is pretty compelling.

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@plushcel We need to have a little bit of variety though. Otherwise it's all same and entirely predictable.

Like how Natlan feels like a pretty knit group where everyone knows everyone, Fontaine's a graph with several 'stars', Sumeru-Mondstadt's a cast of loosely-connected groups, etc

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@Ibbywins @mvp_0208 @RunnyyH @BadMouse101 @Dinkeldash what do you think should be the alternatives? because if I'm not mistaken, these two options were the widely held belief at the time

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@khaslanapill @Ryaneines1029 Mm yeah, I can understand the visuals side of it.

I personally think Aventurine's story's connection to Penacony's overarching storyline is nothing when compared to Sunday's,

But purely looks-wise Aventurine does suit Penacony more.

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@khaslanapill I'm genuinely curious, but what would be Aglaea's argument over Cyrene here..?

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@khaslanapill @Ryaneines1029 I like your take on it, but presenting a mirage of dreams as an utopia to cover reality is, quite literally, Sunday's story.

Even his motive in Planarcadia is all about this 'arcadia'.

The blissful dream in your take even belongs to Sunday too.

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@vitaaeris This, Bottleland, GAA, Unreconciled Stars, and many others is the biggest reason why I think the most urgent QoL to implement is a way to 'optionally' download assets-voices-etc for story.

Honestly, I think the biggest limiting factor is storage sizes, and this would solve that.

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@JerryYang974827 @WuWa_Ani_Info I mean it makes sense haha, you've played it, your random glimpses will be more accurate than mine.

Wow you're right, these others sounds pretty nice at a glance, thank you!

I suppose I'll add Wuwa to my backlog after doing ZZZ, been a while since I last played it back in 2.0.