@jamesdon5632@leslibless You're wrong. You don't drive across state line, into a riot in progress carrying an illegal firearm not expecting to shoot someone. He wanted to kill somebody. That's not self defense.
@notursugargirl The endurance model is pretty nice. I had one with a butt. And I enjoyed it a lot. The one thing I'll say about them is that they can be a pain to clean, and you HAVE to clean after EVERY use. It can get really gross really fast if you don't.