Karl

[Deltaa @yesdeltaa]

Destiny explains why the Emiru allegations against Mizkif are harder to believe 👀

"I don't know how it works in a court environment but in a personal environment it heavily undermines the claim..."

"You're the one that is setting up the cause and effect and then we're finding out that you lied about the effect, which I think it's fair then to make you doubt the cause"

[james dolan ruined my life @Nobrunsonburner]

Hasan - shocks his dog
Asmongold - racist and stinks
Emiru- racist chud
Pokimaine - has said the n word
XQC - can’t speak English
Mizkif - ugly
Maya - Fan of the spurs
Yourrage - can’t move knees
Emily - can’t drive

Is Twitch cooked?

[Karl @pchen_ri]

@HJensen10566 @AsianAndyFilms as randomly starting non-consensual touching “hoping it becomes consensual.” The key question is whether there was a clear boundary before the reaction, not whether stopping after the reaction was good.

[Karl @pchen_ri]

@HJensen10566 @AsianAndyFilms You’re acting like consent needs to be verbally re-established before every single move. They were cuddling, making out, and even in Emiru’s own wording she “let him” kiss her. In a messy on/off relationship with a history of breaking up, getting back together, and makeup sex

[Karl @pchen_ri]

@HJensen10566 @AsianAndyFilms as Mizkif claims, they were cuddling/making out for an extended period and she was reciprocating. Add the context of an on/off sexual relationship, alleged breakup/makeup sex, and an intimate dynamic where escalation could reasonably be read as mutual, and it is not the same

[Karl @pchen_ri]

@johnnysosmally @scubaryan_ You keep swapping in random stranger-danger scenarios because under the actual facts, the key question stays the same: what clear boundary did he ignore before she reacted?

[Karl @pchen_ri]

@johnnysosmally @scubaryan_ That hypothetical is braindead because it removes every relevant fact. There’s no on/off sexual relationship, no alleged history of breakup/makeup sex, no extended cuddling and making out, and no intimate context where escalation could reasonably be read as mutual.

[Karl @pchen_ri]

@HJensen10566 @AsianAndyFilms making out, it’s not crazy to read that as ambiguous at minimum. I agree a more definite legal statement matters, but publicly Miz already gave the core account: once she reacted negatively, he immediately stopped. That is the key point for whether he ignored consent.

[Karl @pchen_ri]

@HJensen10566 @AsianAndyFilms was the only one initiating, or what the full context looked like. In an on/off relationship with alleged breakup/makeup sex, those moments can be emotionally messy and still reciprocal. If she “let him” kiss her for an extended period, and his account is that they were cuddling/

[Karl @pchen_ri]

@johnnysosmally @scubaryan_ He stopped when consent was withdrawn. You’re stuck on one word because you can’t point to the actual boundary he supposedly ignored before she reacted.

[Karl @pchen_ri]

@johnnysosmally @scubaryan_ Of course it has to be before. That’s not “changing the narrative,” that’s the entire point. If her reaction was the first clear signal she didn’t want it, and he immediately got off and stopped at that moment, then he didn’t ignore consent or assault her.

[Karl @pchen_ri]

@HJensen10566 @AsianAndyFilms So again, where is the ignored boundary before that moment? That is the part you still haven’t shown.

[Karl @pchen_ri]

@HJensen10566 @AsianAndyFilms By his account, they were cuddling/making out. In that context, escalation does not automatically prove assault unless there was a clear rejection or stop signal before it. And once there was a negative reaction, both accounts agree he immediately got off and stopped.

[Karl @pchen_ri]

@johnnysosmally @scubaryan_ So unless you can show he ignored a clear boundary before then, you’re just celebrating a semantics win while dodging the core point.

[Karl @pchen_ri]

@johnnysosmally @scubaryan_ The question is still whether there was a clear stop signal before that moment that he ignored. From both accounts, when she reacted negatively, he immediately got off and stopped.

[Karl @pchen_ri]

@johnnysosmally @AsianAndyFilms signal, and by both accounts he immediately got off and stopped, then you still haven’t shown he continued after consent was withdrawn. So do you have an answer to that, or are we just arguing over the word “scream”?

[Karl @pchen_ri]

@johnnysosmally @AsianAndyFilms Yeah fair, she described it as “screamed,” while Mizkif described it more like a yelp/reaction. That’s irrelevant to the core of my point though. The actual issue is whether he ignored a clear boundary before that moment. If that scream/yelp/reaction was the first clear stop