UPDATE THREAD ON THE PALM BEACH LEARJET 60 PLANE CRASH
Starting with this, here’s aerial footage over of the actual plane crash. You know what’s missing? Actual plane wreckage.
Six months before it crashed in Florida, the same Learjet was fighting severe turbulence on its way into Teterboro.
Listen to their voices and tell me if that sounds like the same pilots to you!
They acted arrogant and tried to argue with the controller, who then embarrassed them with a scolding.
On May 6, Learjet 60 N722BD climbed above its assigned 4,000 feet on approach. The controller ordered it back down immediately and told the crew that if they couldn't hold altitude, it wasn't moderate turbulence, it was severe.
ATC then warned other traffic that the jet was unable to maintain altitude and was showing 3,600 feet. By sheer luck, it landed safely at Teterboro.
On November 1, they weren't so lucky and we know what unfortunately happened next.
This replay was built from public flight tracking data and amateur air traffic control audio.
Six months before it crashed in Florida, the same Learjet was fighting severe turbulence on its way into Teterboro.
Listen to their voices and tell me if that sounds like the same pilots to you!
They acted arrogant and tried to argue with the controller, who then embarrassed them with a scolding.
On May 6, Learjet 60 N722BD climbed above its assigned 4,000 feet on approach. The controller ordered it back down immediately and told the crew that if they couldn't hold altitude, it wasn't moderate turbulence, it was severe.
ATC then warned other traffic that the jet was unable to maintain altitude and was showing 3,600 feet. By sheer luck, it landed safely at Teterboro.
On November 1, they weren't so lucky and we know what unfortunately happened next.
This replay was built from public flight tracking data and amateur air traffic control audio.
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The pilot in this video is okay and landed safely. This plane did not go down. The pilot here was flying VFR in IFR conditions and disorientation caused an uncontrolled spin. ATC reminded this pilot of stall recovery procedures and helped him recover and land safely.
I don’t blame him for panicking. I’d be terrified, too.
The Learjet pilots had a totally different situation, and looking at the totality of circumstances available at this time, it seems there was nothing anyone could do.
Facing what could be your final moments while being able to communicate critical information and data to ATC regardless of inflection tone is tragically remarkable.
@Auxarcer@lookner The pilot-in-command limitation applies to LR-JET, which is a distinct type rating from the LR-60, for which no such limitation is listed (and which was the type of aircraft he was flying)
#NEWS: Jeff Gregory, 55, has been identified as the captain of the Learjet 60 that crashed in Palm Beach County, Florida, killing all nine people aboard. Originally from Limerick, Pennsylvania, Gregory was an experienced commercial pilot who had dreamed of flying since childhood. He leaves behind his wife, Cheryl, and several children. His former friend described him as diligent and dependable, saying flying was something Gregory truly loved. Via @TheSun
They say this is the actual plane that crashed in Florida! This is the hole is supposedly created with asphalt and rock thrown several feet in every direction. And this is what a bird strike does to a 747🤔🧐🤨😒
Looks like the storm cell rose rapidly from below and appeared like a mini-hurricane. The LearJet flew right into it.
South Florida is NOT a beginner-friendly place to fly especially from June - November and especially around midday, when convective activity is common.
You can suddenly hit a strong updraft even with nothing displayed on the weather radar, then something pops up right under or in front of you, and it’s hard to even change heading.
Yes pilots are supposed to keep a wide berth of these cells but when they develop that quickly the margin for error shrinks dramatically.
This is a great visualization that reconstructs weather pattern and flight path simultaneously: