You’re approaching the problem from a scientific frame that ultimately seeks to correlate phenomena of consciousness (or subjective experience) with quantifiable patterns. Walsh approaches it from a religious/moral frame in which conscience occupies an ontologically higher place and is not reducible to a purely scientific explanation. You’re both talking past each other.
@algekalipso Explaining consciousness by identifying the neural correlates of its objects (what one is conscious of) is to confuse those correlates with the experience itself.
@RadishHarmers Inside a structure that is knowledgeable, intelligibility shapes your connection with reality. From the outside, that structure is non-existent.
I can believe that once someone is so deep into *insert medical definition* that they can do things that are out of their control. That, precisely, I can believe. What I don’t believe is that *insert medical definition* is something that comes out of nowhere. You have the responsibility to take care of yourself. Sure, doctors, society, books, philosophies, and thoughts can lead you astray, but you are still responsible for yourself. If not, then no one is ever guilty of anything.
@devankane404@darwintojesus Sure, when the first domino has fallen and pushed down the second domino, I guess you can take the first domino in your hand. But you can't take out the first domino out of the real chain of causality of what actually happened. Without it's fall, there is no domino effect.
@GadSaad I imagine that if you’re a really hardened deterministic reductionist, you could come to the conclusion that your genes are largely responsible for how you react to your environment.
A pile of cells of what? Obviously they belong to a category that you refuse to name. Later in your reasoning, out of existential convenience, you abandon your reductionism and —oops— there appears what unifies this mass of cells. So when you say you’re not sensitive to the idea that a tiny pile of cells could be a human being, it’s actually that you haven’t yet seen the incoherence of your logic when you magically make a category appear whose elements were already there from the very beginning.