@___il_______@panda_cree69213@uncleFredsTweet@RelearningEcon Your dumb retard example is not the LTV. Neither the classical one of Smith and Ricardo and especially not the one by Marx. I don't know why you argue about something you never took time to understand. Its like denouncing gravity because you dont feel it in outer space
@DukeTravancore@vivalavarnes@AValcreuse@Slide2theleft_@FloofskanZhit Nature is another part. The rest neo classicals come up with are rather distortions of value, which are mostly also explored by Marx. Its just that value is definitely not derived from subjective aesthetic judgement and an economy is also not an auction
@vivalavarnes@AValcreuse@Slide2theleft_@FloofskanZhit You are most likely a bit like most anti communist accounts. But lets try it this way. I order a package, but there is nobody doing the process of delivery or one step further and nobody even produced the product i ordered. How is the value being materialized?
@vivalavarnes@AValcreuse@Slide2theleft_@FloofskanZhit Always had been. Labour and value require a social context. Value doesn't exist in a vacuum. It requires a subject, relation to the subject and to other valuables. Even supply and demand describes a relation.
@vivalavarnes@AValcreuse@Slide2theleft_@FloofskanZhit This level of retardation. Why do we work then? if you use a few brain cells you could work out from first principles, with humans as metabolically beings that form earthly substrates into product. You have to be an absolute mystic to think value is pure aesthetic
@baroquerational@K_Niemietz Well actually its because china structures its economy more scientifically. The biggest problem is the emergence of vibes based leftism and the neo classical economist, which are a bunch of mystics, claiming rationality. Marxism was always the science based approach to econ
@real_artforz@SnakeHoppe The strength of the liberal argument was historically literally that it provided more liveability, in terms of nutrition, household goods, houses. Now everything is so shit that people just dont argue anymore that the Demise of a big chunk of society isn't by design
@real_artforz@SnakeHoppe You dumb? i am not her employer. Also this is twitter and I cant write a whole dissertation about society. The point is that neo liberal drones completely forgot the end goal of an economy. Which is society. And what purpose does society have for a group animal
@Vicente8101@CurtisDaly_@monke_io You dumb? Europe has become shit due to austerity and neo liberal economics. Yall are brain rotted that you think the woke stuff that is absolutely in line with liberal capitalism, was a reflection of socialism. You will become an economic zone and it wont be because of leftist
@Vicente8101@CurtisDaly_@monke_io Non of the capitalist countries do full neo classical and the tilt applying more of it is literally the downfall of the west since the 80s. Regan, Thatcher etc. Libertarians are the most illiterate philosophically and economically
@StefanFrancisci "argue like children" and its the foundation of society. Like neo classicals literally achieved to make right wing retards strive for a system more dysfunctional than feudal serfdom. Like dude you have at least to pretend that market mechanics will give anybody houses, you moron