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@TRIPSTER0 So you paid $679. Why lie?

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@TRIPSTER0 Sounds just like the switch and switch 2

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@OyasumiBastet I never said they were. But new vs pre-owned games is a very different thing than steam vs every other option on PC.

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@OyasumiBastet Why? You and I both know that's not the only option on PC. Why are you intentionally just limiting PC options now?

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@OyasumiBastet No, PC games.

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@OyasumiBastet when you want to buy PC* games, steam is not the only option. the SM is a PC.

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@OyasumiBastet Ok. *when* you want to buy new, the only option is sony. Is that better? The IF wasn't the point. The options were the point.

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@OyasumiBastet But with playstation, if you want to buy new, the only option is them. On SM, steam isn't the only option whatsoever. Not the same profit at all.

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@OyasumiBastet How will sony lose a lot more money from having millions and millions more users that spend money compared to SM users?

the percentage of non-spenders vs spenders on playstation is far, far smaller compared to SM.

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@OyasumiBastet Sony didn't get $0 from that game though. They got the original cut. Even if there's an original purchase for the pirated game, there's a good chance it isn't from steam. It can be from numerous other storefronts.

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@OyasumiBastet So then with that math, there are millions and millions more PlayStation users that spend money compared to steam machine users. Since the steam machine will sell single digit millions and the PS5 is at like 50 million already.

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@OyasumiBastet It's definitely relevant. They actually got a cut from the original sale. With pirating, there's no original sale whatsoever.

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@OyasumiBastet Do you really think there are many people who have purchased PlayStations and have never purchased a game? And again, with second hand, Sony already got their cut from that game.

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@OyasumiBastet Really? You're talking about entirely different types of metrics and trying to make them work together. Second hand sales vs direct sales, and now vs dvds? And talking about total number of users vs sales per device. It's all over the place.

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@OyasumiBastet The point isn't clear whatsoever. You keep glossing over stuff that has already been explained

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@OyasumiBastet No it doesn't lol. These metrics won't help them figure out if they can actually subsidize the hardware.

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@OyasumiBastet That metric makes zero sense at all. You're grasping at straws here.

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@OyasumiBastet How?? Who else makes games for PlayStation? What other storefronts are there?

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@OyasumiBastet Less guaranteed than those consoles. Because if you want to buy a game, it has to be a game that Sony gets a cut from. Steam machine doesn't have that guarantee whatsoever.