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𐐜 𐑉𐐨𐑆𐐲𐑌 𐐶𐐨 𐐼𐐭 𐑌𐐪𐐻 𐐸𐐰𐑂 𐑄 𐑅𐐨𐐿𐑉𐐮𐐻𐑅 𐐲𐑂 𐑄 𐐢𐐫𐑉𐐼
𐑉𐐮𐑂𐐨𐑊𐐲𐐼 𐐲𐑌𐐻𐐭 𐐲𐑅 𐐮𐑆 𐐺𐐮𐐿𐐫𐑆 𐐶𐐨 𐐼𐐭 𐑌𐐪𐐻 𐐿𐐨𐐹 𐑄𐐯𐑋

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Catholic says something Catholic

[SWOLE Nephi 💪🏻 @LargeInStature_]

Where my LDS groypers at? This is the guy you get all of your social/political opinions from? The guy you let shape your worldview for you? Lol.

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@Bronzeagemormon I remember it brother
I was there and you were there

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How it feels explaining the Kali Yuga to a profane pseudo-Initiate

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@RealRangoStarr

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Literally me

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@latterdagosaint Good question 🤔 I'll have to ask him

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Haven't opened Twitter at all today, and the first thing I see is Chad telling me to stop beating my meat before I summon angels

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@elderchudjk @WhiteHorseSeer

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@T_M_Mystic @BIGKLDS @stackerco The Church gave George D. Smith direct access to the journals all the way back in the 90s for his book "An Intimate Chronicle" the book heavily features polygamy. The PDFs Jeremy Hoop released on his website contain all the same entries that George D. Smith's book covers

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Except they do contain all of the details that earlier researchers said they do. Like Joseph Smith sealing Clayton to the Moon sisters and telling him that the covenant cannot be revoked when they want to get out of it. Dozens of other polygamy references, even Jeremy Hoop admits that. Is the argument Clayton just made it all up or what?

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@T_M_Mystic @BIGKLDS @stackerco Yes

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@T_M_Mystic @BIGKLDS @stackerco Can you give me the SparkNotes of Jeremy Hoop's argument? I watched him on Mormonism Live for 3 hrs beat around the bush and never learned what his actual argument was, it was very infuriating.

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“O Thou, who seest and Knowest the hearts of all men–Thou eternal, omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent Jehovah–God–Thou Elohim, that sittest, as saith the Psalmist, `enthroned in heaven,’ look down upon Thy servant Joseph at this time; and let faith on the name of Thy Son Jesus Christ, to a greater degree than Thy servant ever yet has enjoyed, be conferred upon him.”

I think Joseph used both Jehovah and Elohim pretty loosely and never in the strict sense that JFS/Talmage came up with. This article has some good information:
https://t.co/GxVBjkMWYO

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Joseph F. Smith and Talmage wanted to get rid of Adam-God and make a more systematized Godhead where Jehovah always mean Jesus, Elohim=Father, etc. I think Talmage saw LoF as being contradictory to other revelations and pushed for it to be removed. JFS commissioned Talmage to write Jesus the Christ as part of this process too. In many ways the current LDS Godhead is Talmage's creation.

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@T_M_Mystic @BIGKLDS @stackerco When did Brigham take out LoF?

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@Kroseph @LatterDayChadX PREACH

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@T_M_Mystic @_qvest Can you please delete this post? People aren't supposed to know that I'm @MormonSerf