Chris Anthony DeGuido

Presbyterian (PCA). Partial Preterist. WCF. Interested in church history whether protestant, Roman Catholic or Orthodoxy. Married. Father. USMC Vet.

[Chris Anthony DeGuido @Presby1992]

@MericaProtest_ @_jonbowlin I find your view of Christ spiritually and covenantally dying very problematic which is trinitarian based issues, but good night 👍

[Chris Anthony DeGuido @Presby1992]

Full preterists come in all sorts of different views. So let me ask. If the world is simply old covenant Israel did Jesus only die for OT saints and the immediate NT saints/audience? Or did He actually die for the world to restore creation?

[Chris Anthony DeGuido @Presby1992]

@MericaProtest_ @_jonbowlin Not my intention

[Chris Anthony DeGuido @Presby1992]

@MericaProtest_ @_jonbowlin For sure. I find multiple problems which i tried to address but it is what it is

[Chris Anthony DeGuido @Presby1992]

@MericaProtest_ @_jonbowlin Welp aight then

[Chris Anthony DeGuido @Presby1992]

@MericaProtest_ @_jonbowlin Can you at least grant based off my questions that im not seeking validation but actually see problems in the system which is why i left fp?

[Chris Anthony DeGuido @Presby1992]

@MericaProtest_ @_jonbowlin I do know its why im asking the way i am. For you resurrection is more than just coming back to life. Its coming into the new covenant body of Christ even for the dead in Hades, that only accounts for the just not the unjust. They aren’t part of the covenant nor body

[Chris Anthony DeGuido @Presby1992]

@MericaProtest_ @_jonbowlin But the question still remains. What corporate body was the dead wicked raised into if they arent part of the corporate body of Christ or new covenant?

[Chris Anthony DeGuido @Presby1992]

@MericaProtest_ @_jonbowlin Do you believe people outside of the old covenant were raised and judged? Or only those apart of the old covenant?

[Chris Anthony DeGuido @Presby1992]

@MericaProtest_ @_jonbowlin Dead as in in your view they cane came out of Hades to be judged

[Chris Anthony DeGuido @Presby1992]

@MericaProtest_ @_jonbowlin Right but your definition of resurrection is the corporate body of Adam, or Moses depending on the FP, rising as new covenant body of Christ. So what corporate body is the wicked raised into?

[Chris Anthony DeGuido @Presby1992]

@MericaProtest_ @wellintonmende2 @_jonbowlin Oof

[Chris Anthony DeGuido @Presby1992]

@MericaProtest_ @_jonbowlin So what corporate entity was the wicked resurrected into?

[Chris Anthony DeGuido @Presby1992]

@MericaProtest_ @_jonbowlin Let me ask you this. The resurrection of the dead saints was them entering God’s new covenant glory corporately right? That’s what resurrection is in your view right?

[Chris Anthony DeGuido @Presby1992]

@MericaProtest_ @_jonbowlin The prophets spoke of all things eschatological sure but that doesn’t mean luke 21:22 is saying that. I think its simply saying all things written around the law and prophets concerning covenant curses would be fulfilled thats clearly the context

[Chris Anthony DeGuido @Presby1992]

@MericaProtest_ @_jonbowlin The all these thongs could and most likely refer to the covenant curses promised, not every single eschatological detail.

[Chris Anthony DeGuido @Presby1992]

@MericaProtest_ @_jonbowlin Meaning “all these things” doesn’t automatically equate to everything ever written

[Chris Anthony DeGuido @Presby1992]

@MericaProtest_ @_jonbowlin So the resurrected saints were being caught up literally but not the living? How did they meet the dead and how were the living saints supposed to comfort eachother with this reality if they weren’t actually going to see their departed loved ones?

[Chris Anthony DeGuido @Presby1992]

@MericaProtest_ @_jonbowlin Ok lets say I grant you this point. Lets put the ball in your court. If this gathering is the resurrection and Paul says the catching up happens at the same time, then what is THE catching up ontologically for the elect around the world? Please elaborate