@andresorthodox this conversation is pointless. ambrose is trying to define what the dogmatic position is and nicholas china is doing the same thing as “well what if your daughter was impregnated by an abuser?? you wouldn’t let her get an abortion???”
@LandonThompsn@pribation And it's clear from actually reading his homily that, and the obedience is not servitude.
Consider the examples of actual married saints. St. Theodora, wife of Justinian, St. Theodora the Empress, & St. Fevronia were pretty strong-willed.