“But men commit 90% of violent crime.”
This might be one of the laziest responses in the gender debate.
I’m going to break this down, slowly, so we can stop using regurgitated words not understanding how ridiculous this I argument actually is.
First: the number isn’t even 90%.
In the FBI’s 2024 arrest data, men accounted for about 79% of violent-crime arrests.
That is absolutely disproportionate.
I have no problem acknowledging that.
But here is where people immediately expose that they don’t understand base rates:
“79% of violent offenders are male”
does NOT mean
“79% of males are violent offenders.”
Those are two completely different denominators.
There are more than 165 MILLION males in the United States.
There were roughly 374,000 reported violent-crime arrests in the FBI data, about 79% of which were male.
That’s roughly 295,000 male arrests.
Even if we pretended, incorrectly, that every single arrest represented a DIFFERENT man,
that would be around: 0.18% of the male population.
And arrests are NOT unique offenders. The same offender can be arrested multiple times.
In fact, criminal offending is highly concentrated among repeat offenders. In one major BJS analysis, just 16% of released prisoners accounted for nearly HALF of all subsequent arrests.
So yes: Men are massively overrepresented among violent offenders.
AND
The overwhelming majority of men are NOT violent offenders.
Both statements are simultaneously true.
That’s what base rates and proportionality are for.
Then we get to IPV, as this repeated statement is used as justification to dismiss men’s issues, assuming, of course, that this is in defense of women
Here it becomes even more interesting.
There is an enormous body of research using measures such as the Conflict Tactics Scales finding substantial gender SYMMETRY in the perpetration of physical partner aggression.
Straus reviewed 200+ studies finding roughly comparable proportions of men and women reporting physical aggression toward partners.
That does NOT mean the consequences are identical.
Men are, on average, physically stronger. Male violence is therefore substantially more capable of producing serious injury, and women experience greater injury from partner violence.
Fine.
Acknowledge it.
But “men can inflict more damage” does not magically transform female violence into non-violence.
A woman hitting a man isn’t empowering.
It isn’t funny.
It isn’t justified because he can probably hit harder.
It’s violence.
And current CDC estimates also remind us that men are not some hypothetical class of victims: about 930,000 U.S. men reported physical violence from an intimate partner in the preceding year in the 2023/24 survey.
Finally, if we’re going to invoke male violence, let’s talk about who actually experiences it.
According to the 2024 National Crime Victimization Survey, approximately 2.39 million violent incidents involving male victims had male offenders, compared with about 1.82 million involving female victims and male offenders.
In other words, MEN themselves absorb an enormous share of male violence.
So the next time someone responds to a male issue with:
“But men commit most violent crime…”
Ask them three questions:
What percentage of men actually commit violent crime?
How concentrated is that violence among repeat offenders?
And who are the victims of male violence?
Because “most violent offenders are men” and “most men are violent” are not remotely the same proposition.
If you don’t understand the denominator, you don’t understand the statistic.
And using the behavior of a tiny, disproportionately violent subset of men to assign collective guilt to 165+ million males isn’t statistical literacy.
It’s stereotyping with a calculator.
@GrainneMcw5503 It has been a good window just feel that we have left it all a bit late again. Could have been in the UCL if this had been done earlier in the window.
@britbongenjoyer@Wullie28239214 Stop talking sense. You need to be more staunch and just go with the group think. Spending more money than you have has never had any impact on your club before.
@Migano2000 Absolutely they had to do a share issue at the start of this season to plug the hole from last. Now with the huge drop in earnings they are in a very bad place.
@Migano2000 Its true that they dont have to worry about midweek games. But they are also now down circa £20M from no European games. That hole needs to be plugged. Dont be surprised if some of there players are sold prior to the closing of the window.
@Highland__paddy These lot are all mentally deranged. One of them posted about sitting with a picture of the dead Queen to have her watch over him during the game. No wonder they constantly think its "there year" they have been conditioned over years to believe this delusion they are the best.
Well we made that look easy im so glad that the board had that really good window. Thursday football and loan signings instead of the players we have "interest" in. ##notanotherpenny
Im calling it now Baur is going to be an absolute superstar for us. He looks so comfortable in our midfield after 2 games can't wait to see him after he is fully settled into the team. HH 🍀
@sloanybhoy7 We are so rent free in this guys mind. I actually feel sorry for him as we seem to be the only good thing in his life. Poor sad little man with his narrow mind
@Gastro_Celtic I hope they get pumped out the comp. The financial hit to them would be massive. Would cause them to have to sell some players to make up for the loss of £15-20mil. Also if they sacked DM because of it all the better the more carnage at that club the better. HH
@CelticFC That bench and many other things are the reason that #notanotherpenny will be here for the foreseeable future. That said. MON THE BHOYS. Let's get them beat hopefully with a comfortable score to take into the 2nd leg HH 🍀