Atheists don't have a belief problem, they have an education problem.
They have been convinced by the indoctrination of bad teaching which they blindly accept as "truth". They are fools masquerading as "skeptics".
Nope. It's always funny when atheists accuse me of something they are actively doing. You clearly need to maintain they are a "single source" without presenting anything other than utter nonsense.
You presented that Matthew, Mark, and Luke share commonality between them and that doesn't make them a "single source" as we are back to the newspapers reporting on the same event.
What about the Gospel of John? Even if I accepted your MML as a single source, it didn't include John. Meaning at minimum there are two sources not one. Please feel free to try and reconcile this problem of yours?
Also the copy vs. corroborating problem and what's the alleged motivation?
It's 2026 and we are dealing with the greatest injustice in the history of humanity: abortion.
It is the single, deadliest, plague ever developed and responsible for ending more lives than the Holocaust, slavery, and every communist regime combined.
Yet people embrace it like it's a good thing?
Oh they're "copied bits" now and not "verbatim"...
Remember your claim is that the empty tomb is a "single, motivated, uncorroborated source".
I already addressed your meme with the Q manuscript, where there is no evidence that it existed. Not to mention the shared parts are not "verbatim". And that till doesn't account for John's gospel.
1) You're clearly wrong about a single source.
2) You assume the multiple sources citing the empty tomb are copying one another rather than corroborating one another - so do you believe it was a conspiracy.
3) What's the conspiracies motivation?
To have Israelites stop animal sacrifices?
To get people to be less religious and more relational with God and others?
To have people commit less wrongdoing against one another?
To love sacrificially as Jesus loves us?
Do you even have a single example of a "verbatim copy" between any of the Gospels?
I mean you literally said that "the empty tomb was a single, motivated, uncorroborated source". But all 4 Gospels mentioned the empty tomb. Either the 4 "copied each other" which you seem to now be claiming or they are not a single source and they actually corroborate each other.
So which road are you trying to go down?
Lol! Not in the slightest.
You claimed there is only a "single source" and that the 4 Gospels copied from each other verbatim. If that were true, then you should have no problem providing an example of "not the same details...verbatim".
Even granting the Q manuscript theory (which there's no evidence of it existing). That's only parts of 3 out of 4 Gospels that would have relied on the same different "single source". It is like how multiple different scientific research papers might use a previous research paper as a source for their research. Citing the old research paper verbatim doesn't invalidate the new research papers.
I'm beginning to doubt you've actually considered or researched the historical reliability of the Gospels and are just regurgitating bad rhetoric you've accepted as true without evidence.
@logistrix@brianhrc1 🤦🏼♂️
You've never read the Gospels have you?
Should be an easy task for you to find a single verbatim instance found in all 4 Gospels then. Please share!
Atheists: The Gospels are copying off of each other verbatim.
Also atheists: Look at all the "contradictions" between the different Gospels.
But yes, newspaper reports will generally have the same details and quotes which doesn't imply "copying" and they will also have differences which doesn't imply "contradictions".
What do you suggest we call a person who supports and defends the "right to choose" ending the life of the most vulnerable?
Seriously, we're talking about a viewpoint that has ended nearly 70,000,000 lives over the past 70 years - predominantly minority lives.
A serious question for pro-lifers: When you call people who support the right to choose things like "evil" "demonic" "killer"...do you think that will change their mind? If not, why do it? What do you hope to gain by vilifyiny someone and putting them on the defensive?
@logistrix@brianhrc1 There are 4 Gospels. Calling that a "single source" is like calling 4 different newspapers reporting on the same event a "single source".
@logistrix Not sure I follow?
I take the same critical analysis of ancient manuscripts and historical documents regardless of its religiousity.
Were the Gospels written before or after Roman historians wrote about that area and era?
Unlike atheists, who want to believe they are good people without God, I can admit that I was not a good person before I accepted Christ and became a Christian. Slowly, I am becoming a more Christ-like person as I continually work to love God and love others around me.
I can't imagine being this deluded.
The left is anti-justice, anti-equality, and since "atheism is not a worldview" it has no moral values.
He basically is claiming that the regressivism of left political ideology aligns with atheism or vice versa.
A common misconception atheists make. It's "You shall not murder".
Capital punishment, self-defense, and justified wars are not biblically nor legally classified as murder. As for God's judgement/justification and commanding of Israel it would also not be classified as murder.
@iamAtheistGirl Sounds exactly like "hate the sin, not the sinner".
You wouldn't continually enable a friend who's an alcoholic to just be "who they are" would you?
Yes.
Roman historical accounts from that same period are largely dated after the Gospels. Meaning the testimony of Jesus from his disciples was written down before other historians wrote about it. All of which are dated within the lifetime of the "anonymous" authors.
There are at least two reasonable conclusions for anonymity. One is to have evaded persecution and the other is to keep the focus on the good news of Jesus rather than the person who was recounting it.
As for the differences between accounts, they are complementary not contradictory.
Humankind has continually attempted and failed to create heaven on Earth in their own image. The sooner we allow God's will to be done on Earth as it is in heaven, the sooner we can stop stubbing our toes.