Proud Shitholer

#proudshitholer-s of the world unite! No matter where you come from you have value & potential as long as you treat those around you with respect & kindness...

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All you #proudshitholer-s out there... send me Tales from Your Shitholes!
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@synonymo_us @TruthSeekTeller @chuckwoolery Mind helping me with a link to start? And, yes, the situation in Haiti turned into a robbers paradise. Loads of money from the American Red Cross disappeared in a nesting doll of middlemen contractors. It's sad :-(
(thanks for not calling me an idiot)

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@synonymo_us @chuckwoolery No. I agree with you. Immigration should be a well-studied, carefully thought-out process that follows the laws of supply and demand. There is a huge demand to enter the US. The US should be careful about enters. But to dismiss entire peoples is unsavvy behavior from a statesman

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@synonymo_us @chuckwoolery I'm referring to you asking if "using a euphemism like 3d world country" will solve the problem. I was saying using that euphemism will not distract from the issue, that being, discussing immigration policy in the United States.

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@realDJTDefender @chuckwoolery https://t.co/NJMLjtWEck also known as false equivalence. Please ignore the references to Soviet Russia. That's not what I'm trying to invoke.

While drawing a contrast to other hypocrisy can be tempting, both sides could keep doing that and then never coherently discuss anything

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@synonymo_us @chuckwoolery No, it won't solve the problem. But it won't distract from the issue at hand either. In diplomatic and professional settings, words matter.

It's okay to 'tell it like it is'. But there's a time and a place for everything.

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@synonymo_us @chuckwoolery I'm not saying they are the same. I'm saying we can have one conversation without invoking the other.

Also, although those countries are disadvantaged, poor, and have high rates of crime and corruption, why use an epithet to refer to them in a professional setting? :-/

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@AvacadoGus @chuckwoolery I agree with both of your sentiments. But whataboutism is not good reporting. One sin can be independent of the other. And in this case they are, despite the difference in severity.

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@WenJMec @chuckwoolery What does that have to do with the president's comments in the news? Don't you think whataboutism makes it impossible to have any kind of cogent conversation? Using whataboutism will just make it okay for Dems to use those same kind of unproductive arguments.

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@codezoo @chuckwoolery But I don't see what that has to do with the current Twitter topic that prompted this tweet. Don't you think whataboutism is counterproductive to talking to each other? Don't you hate it when Dems use it?

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@realDJTDefender @chuckwoolery While I agree that those who have perpetrated financial crimes are scum, whataboutism makes it impossible to discuss anything. I feel the criticisms of the president are valid but have nothing to do with the Clintons or anyone else. Using whataboutisms validates them for Dem use

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@Joanie513 @chuckwoolery They should definitely be prosecuted if they have committed crimes. But it really has nothing to do with the news about the president's remarks. Don't you think whataboutism is damaging to being able to clearly discuss things? Don't you hate it when Dems do that?

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@GrammaYayam164 @chuckwoolery Why should he let them off the hook? Wouldn't that be 'soft on crime'? I don't think anyone wants that.

But it's all besides the point. Their actions have nothing to do with the current conversation about the president's lack of composure in a professional setting.

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@TruthSeekTeller @synonymo_us @chuckwoolery :-( that's mean. I'm just a person trying to figure out what's happening in the world.

Which cronies of theirs are robbing Haiti?

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@synonymo_us @chuckwoolery You might be right.

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@synonymo_us @chuckwoolery No. I'm not. I'm stating that one has nothing to do with the other. Whataboutism is poor rhetorical form. Those serious accusations should be part of another accusation. Trump and the Clintons can both be criticized as far as I'm concerned.

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@jeffjeffries99 @shawnsBrain66 @chuckwoolery If all those things are true, they should be held accountable. Democrats and Republicans should both be subject to the rule of law. Any Republicans you also feel should be investigated for potential crimes?

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@shawnsBrain66 @chuckwoolery I would take @chuckwoolery's criticism as genuine if it was something he had been bringing up about Haiti before today, but the timing makes it seem disingenuous. Also, what about his statement applying to a whole continent: Africa? Isn't this very strange for a president to say?

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@mannoname4 @chuckwoolery Because whataboutism will muddy up any waters in a conversation. A president's lack of empathy and propriety when speaking about valid issues is worth criticizing. Dems and Repubs should all be criticized but without the whiplash of apples vs. oranges comparisons

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@synonymo_us @chuckwoolery I agree. Dems and Repubs should all be held accountable for corruption. But in the current conversation, isn't this just whataboutism that muddies the waters around the issue: the current president shows evidence of a lack of empathy and statesmenlike savvy?

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@Rise_Abov @chuckwoolery A valid point. Anyone who has committed a crime should be investigated & prosecuted. Democrat, Republican, liberal, conservative, socialist, capitalist. Anyone. But bringing this in a mass conversation about a president's lack of empathy & diplomacy is unproductive whataboutism