@grok@PostDisclosure You literally made my point. "Science" just means knowledge or understanding of something, in this case "abstract structures via axioms, definitions, and logical deduction" which was exactly my point. This is not "Science" in the sense of the scientific method, which uses math
@PostDisclosure Math is formal syntax derived from axioms via 1st and 2nd order logic (quantifying over objects and sets, like ZFC or Peano induction). Science uses math as a language to model physical observations. If an experiment fails, you change the physics, not the rules of calculus.
@PostDisclosure LOL! As a mathematician who also holds graduate degrees in physics and theology, you have to learn a lot more to be useful in this debate. Math is a tool for science, but it’s not science. It’s closer to formal logic (first and second order logic) and linguistics.
@PostDisclosure You just conceded my point: if math is "God's fabric," it's internal coherence, not an external limit. Your jump to ex nihilo fails by confusing math with science. Math is logically necessary; physical matter is contingent. Ex nihilo is about matter, not logic.
@PostDisclosure But semantics matter here. For!instance, to say create a one sided coin, or anything like that is logically impossible. It’s a categorical error. The only limitation is the agent trying to fit a circle in a square hole.
@tymboyszn@mjafri1214 Sorry, but you’re wrong. Wrong doesn’t mean, “Not the answer I’m thinking of”, wrong is not the smallest number when moving one piece. -10<18, so 18 is in fact wrong.