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Vanity of vanities

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@HabCorpLinguist @ShamashAran @conservmillen Yes.
They also have the responsibility to not recklessly endanger others. Doing so is already illegal.

Why beg for more laws when existing ones fit the bill and are not enforced?

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@Grinnolf @michaelmalice Do you really want government participating in which species, breed, etc. of living things should be ended or not?

Really?

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@OpenSCADGuns @PstafarianPrice Plus, the second claim is not especially meaningful, & w/o knowing what % of all dogs are of each breed, we can't really say whether it's accurate.

For me, this issue is as much about people misusing data, and is emblematic of broader statistical and logical illiteracy.

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@michaelmalice @JasonBetan70667 Who is it that denies this?
Shit happens, but that doesn't mean we need to go layer regulations on what pet breeds people can keep in their own home.

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@michaelmalice If you can be convicted of murder because your kid gunned people down, why not convict people of murders committed by their dog (that clearly has less agency than the kid)?

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@KennyTorrella You: But I should be allowed to use my drone to spy on the private activities of other people on their private property.

Seems lame.

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@YIMBYLAND In your chart, 284 deaths over 12 years is 24 deaths on average annually, out of 320+ million people in the US.

A statistical anomaly, to put it mildly.

Also, there are already leash laws in most places, laws against assault, reckless endangerment, on and on.

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@cvmonakow Govern me harder, daddy.

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@Caoindealbain05 @grok @TedWarring @SalomeSibonex Accuracy in data analysis is important.
It's not even an issue of being for/against any specific argument.

I'm against these same sloppy ass mistakes and erroneous arguments, unsupported by data, that people make on all sorts of issues.

Reason & logic are sorely lacking.

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@peachtard @bunpilledcath Bred for animal aggression, not human aggression.

People who did bull baiting and dog fighting needed to be able to handle and train the dogs. Otherwise, the animal was worthless to them.

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@ABQBear I mean ... given the statistically low likelihood for anyone to be killed by any dog at all, the people freaking out about it don't have much room to complain about emotionally driven, poor decision making.

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@bigseb31213 @GambelerQuail 😂 this is so ridiculous

For starters, why are you leaving your toddler around any large dog?

Second, out of millions and millions of dogs and people, these attacks are in the thousands, deaths in hundreds. It rarely happens. You're pearl clutching over a statistical anomaly.

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Knew a guy whose cousin's neighbor's hairdresser's aunt's florist had a pit bull. Super cuddly, fed the homeless. Then one day it suddenly snapped, slaughtered the entire population of the next town over in under an hour before releasing the covid virus and fleeing to Antarctica.

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@conservmillen So... Isn't the easy answer to just not have your kid around them?

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@BangerCarlos @roringthunder This doesn't even make sense.
The people who bred them to fight selected them specifically for animal aggression, not human aggression. And for practical reasons - they had to be able to handle them in order to train and fight them.

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@roringthunder They absolutely make great guard dogs. As evidenced by the current moral panic, people fear them. All they have to do is sit there, and people freak out.

They are so scary, apparently, that people are calling for total eradication of the breed. The deterrent value is high.

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@Thermobolic These dogs are all lumped in to the reporting on "pit bulls"

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@thechickenmario So, he's going to ID people?
You lot constantly cry about that being racist, though.

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@HankShedwrecker @memeticsisyphus If a dog, or anything else, is threatening you on your property, kill it.