@Peterjonsey@FranHernaNZ No shit Sherlock - but the carbon isn't converted into oxygen or water ... So turning "turning carbon into oxygen and water" is utter nonsense.
@CraigHanover@nealejones Yes, hard to establish a trend with just four data points. However, the only evidence is of an improvement ... so the idea that she has either made it worse, or hasn't made it better are utterly false - when confronted with observation.
@SureshSyed@BMHayward Participating in society doesn't exclude you from trying to improve it. Your point is a distraction and utterly without any merit.
@MidnightRambl20 @taneoftheforest@jamespeshaw@EricCrampton@FranHernaNZ You asked for the greater context, I provided that. The article's analysis is shallow and using the situation there to further a rhetorical point without basis *is* silly.
As I said, synths may well be needed - but deliberately misunderstanding a situation -> poor conclusions.
@MidnightRambl20 @taneoftheforest@jamespeshaw@EricCrampton@FranHernaNZ And finally, the crop failures were beginning well before the fert issues with shifting monsoons, and the trend continued. The fert ban was ill-advised and too much of a shock - but it's not the evidence that synthetics are needed that people claim it is.
@MidnightRambl20 @taneoftheforest@jamespeshaw@EricCrampton@FranHernaNZ And the political climate was already degrading from a long time ago due to perceived (and very real) corruption. People making the simplistic link to the ferts miss that this was 2 decades in the making).
@MidnightRambl20 @taneoftheforest@jamespeshaw@EricCrampton@FranHernaNZ Further, one of the major amplifying problems for SL was the reliance on imported energy (via growth of non-renewable generation, in a country that had almost 100% renewable energy generation in 2000). A large part of the social disruption was from that.
@MidnightRambl20 @taneoftheforest@jamespeshaw@EricCrampton@FranHernaNZ It further makes errors about the situation in the 70s (making it seem like production was a problem) - where the actual crisis was essentially an import crisis.
@MidnightRambl20 @taneoftheforest@jamespeshaw@EricCrampton@FranHernaNZ Like I said, essentially banning synth fert overnight was dumb. However, there was a lot of work underway by the DoA in SL to transition to permaculture type agriculture (using modern tech - the article stawmans there btw, pretending like proponents of organics are anti-tech).
@Peterjonsey@FranHernaNZ You do realize that if that produce is consumed (either by humans or animals) then the CO2 is released back into the atmosphere right?
@Willuknight So what you are really saying is that everyone should get their own plane ... and ratepayers should pay for hangar space all around town ... right? ;)
@BigBirdKiwi@Ugh4321@kirsty_johnston If it was then Caucus would have been at least shown the findings ... the fact that they weren't and the line is "trust me, there's nothing to see here" suggests it's nonsense.
Admit it, if the shoe was on the other foot you wouldn't be so charitable ...
@Daphneauckland@kirsty_johnston If you are holding the same "unbiased" standard you should be demanding the TOR and the Exec summary here ... Alas, when this is pointed out you deflect to "media is biased" ... Ironic!
@Kiwi_006@Ari_Nicholson21 @bernardchickey You are creating a false equivalence - so yeah, it's a deflection technique. The difference is Uffindel had a clear history and evidence of bullying - Sharma's one specific accusation turned out to be completely nothing.