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multi-affectionate aroace, maverique, it/its, ith/iths

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phrases like "not a third gender", "included/always included in all orientations", & "not part of the binary" are catchy ways to feign inclusivity without having to do actual work around recognizing & affirming there being more than two genders

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lots of "inclusive" ppl have really not reckoned with the idea of there being more than two genders in any meaningful way

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@biresistance bi ppl can or can not have preferences. bi covers all kinds of multi gender attraction, including attraction to some but not all genders.
Pan is specifically only attraction to all genders or regardless of gender.

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blocked. but what do you think you meant? esp after saying you couldn't id as bi cause you're not attracted to men?

you're either viewing "nonmen" as a single gender, nonbinary genders as not "real" genders, or binary genders as the only genders counting in mspec attraction

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@chwrryfemme you can't like multiple genders using a definition about multiple different genders loving multiple different genders?

oh, I get it. you're exorsexist.

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@xiaoguangyuri complaining about some queer ppl who aren't women who have historically been welcomed to include themselves in some lesbian communities still choosing to include themselves while using a new def of lesbian made to include queer ppl who aren't women but in a separatist way is wild

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@chwrryfemme you can't like multiple genders using a definition about multiple different genders loving multiple different genders?

oh, I get it. you're exorsexist.

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@Svn_k1ssed_ "nonwomen" is also a new, binary prioritizing, and exclusionary regendering that many nonbinary ppl don't like or use

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@chwrryfemme @AA20012024 "being attracted to women and one or more nonbinary genders can fall under both bi and lesbian attraction but iding as both isn't exactly possible" it's giving biphobia

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@AA20012024 historically it's been about loving women

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@aersicle Being attracted to multiple genders doesn't require attraction to men. Attraction to multiple "nonman" genders is mspec attraction.

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@orangeyounini @Princ3ss0fPower Bi doesn't only mean same and other. Other common def are "more than one" and "two or more". These are more inclusive by not requiring same gender attraction. Anyone attracted to any variation of multiple genders should be welcomed to id as bi.

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@AA20012024 @chwrryfemme We're discussing lesbians who are attracted to multiple genders, not men. I specifically gave an example of nonbinary inclusion and was told it was bi attraction and then I asked for clarification on that topic. No men involved.

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@Svn_k1ssed_ I'm sorry that you don't know the history of pan and you think that the MLM flag is for men that love "nonmen" (which is new, binary prioritizing and exclusionary regendering that many nonbinary ppl don't like or use)

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@LiveToStarvex Interesting. I rarely see other ppl bring up how attraction to one binary gender and one or more nonbinary genders is bi attraction.

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@aakhifspam Neat. I don't usually see ppl talking about how nonbinary ppl who get included often aren't seen as their genders.

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@ironasss bi means attraction to multiple genders, not attraction to men

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@Penelopee1392 lesbians who aren't separatists have found a way to do this generally without being biphobic

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@ftmspongebob0 do you say this about lesbian being redefined as attraction to multiple genders?

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@Ieonkennedyreal @dangerdaysshed bi ppl don't have to like men. being attracted to women and one or more nonbinary genders falls under bi. and some ppl who like women and one or more nonbinary genders choose to id with multiple applicable lables, often to highlight being mspec or for the comfort of their partner

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@LiveToStarvex accuse ppl of harm but I bet you use the new defs of gay & lesbian that redefine them as attraction to multiple genders, which happened cause ppl who were additionally attracted to genders other than man or woman didn't want to id as bi. at least bigay/lesbians admit to being bi