M! ✨️🌱

sooner than you think!

[M! ✨️🌱 @rainvogue]

so kinda sad it ended so abruptly. feels like there was still more to explore, but author-nim's health matters more. andrew's backstory getting addressed (& bit of luke's earlier) was nice at least. derrick's resolution still felt a bit underwhelming though

[M! ✨️🌱 @rainvogue]

i ended up rereading #nerdproject . i'd kinda forgotten how different the early chps feel: the storyboard's tighter, luke & andrew are way more animated & the art style is rougher?

[M! ✨️🌱 @rainvogue]

then as their relationship develops, everything shifts: panels get more picturesque, art becomes much more polished & both of them look so beautiful in the later style. writing also changes a lot. it's more polished, soft, almost novel-like, esp andrew’s monologues.

[M! ✨️🌱 @rainvogue]

@lylycarello that's not being "direct," you're responding to a weak argument you made up

[M! ✨️🌱 @rainvogue]

@lylycarello i didn't say it's healthy or that attractiveness makes it ok, those are your words, not mine! you're misrepresenting my position instead of engaging with the points i've raised so far, this feels like talking to a wall 😮‍💨

[쥬쥬 @solti311]

#해피투게더

[M! ✨️🌱 @rainvogue]

@lylycarello that's strawman, didn't say they're not vulnerable, i said they have agency. you're jumping from vulnerability to exposure = harm/grooming w/c isn't the same & lacks nuance, but you default young readers lacking critical thinking & that's where i disagree, so i'll leave it there

[𝑳𝒖♡🦩*ੈ✩‧₊˚ @honeybreaths]

if you don't like omegaverse that's FINE, but you don't have to keep annoying the ppl who like it with the same fucking discourse over and over again. "but it's misogynistic!!!" 1) misogyny is when men 2) writing fics. is not. activism.

filter it out, move on, please.

[M! ✨️🌱 @rainvogue]

@lylycarello issue is you're already treating the outcome of reading romance stories a foregone conclusion when people's responses to fiction are always subjective! honestly it starting to feel like it is less like genuine concern & more like wanting to seem like the more reasonable one.

[M! ✨️🌱 @rainvogue]

@lylycarello no, it's not grooming. you're making it seem way more serious than it actually was when it was just a trope. collectively calling teenagers stupid just to make your point is incredibly condescending.

[MR🌸 @CulOsays]

Esta ilustración me parece una reinterpretación de “Ofelia” de John Everett Millais, por supuesto, salvando las distancias, pero yo veo parte de la inspiración ahí👀

[M! ✨️🌱 @rainvogue]

intention also matters. what was the purpose of the story? is the relationship really predatory? sometimes we generalize without fully considering context. there are definitely problematic stories, sure, but it's important to look at intention & context before making judgments.

[M! ✨️🌱 @rainvogue]

we should exercise prudence when using strong language when talking about things w/o enough context, esp in fiction. it can be misleading to label unconventional/controversial ideas/plot devices carelessly since it may undermine the real meaning when applied to lived experiences.

[이게그거냐? 래퍼남친? @sasim2gether]

우승민 김재영을 왜 저렇게 좋아할까?

[Zach from Uchuu Shelf @uchuushelf]

There is literally a whole anime about why this is a fucking stupid idea and doesn't work.

[charles 🌿 𝕽𝖊𝖕𝖗𝖎𝖓𝖙 𝕭𝖆𝖘𝖆𝖗𝖆 @thehorsecharles]

once again:

[M! ✨️🌱 @rainvogue]

@Ro93Ku "grooming" is very strong language to use here imho. there was no manipulation/exploitation shown in the story. using sensitive terms too loosely can also misrepresent the experiences of real people who have actually gone through abuse

[M! ✨️🌱 @rainvogue]

just wanna get a little technical about manga demographics. dengeki daisy was serialized in betsucomi, shogakukan's shoujo magazine aimed at older teens & readers in their early 20s. lot of the series published under this label tend to be more mature in tone & subject matter

[M! ✨️🌱 @rainvogue]

@lylycarello so yeah, let's be careful using terms like "groomig" for an idealized fictional romance. there's no coercion in the story. kurosaki didn't target teru, their dynamic started with grief & guilt then developed from within that framework. like i said context matters!

[M! ✨️🌱 @rainvogue]

@lylycarello my point is young readers' agency. a lot of this reasoning comes across as if their judgment is inherently insufficient. strong moral language alone can't replace context and narrative nuance, context matters in fiction.

[M! ✨️🌱 @rainvogue]

@keyjamm they're underestimating young girls as if they're incapable of thinking critically. and honestly, dengeki daisy isn't nearly as immoral as they're making it out to be. 😮‍💨 relax people, it's a shoujo manga for crying out loud 😭