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[ram_k @ramcdk]

@benji_smith @paulnovosad The right approach is to ban it from higher ed. Use it when you get out - it’s easy to learn. But during the years you’re paying big $ to develop your own mind, no

(Yes in theory you could use AI judiciously to augment learning during college, but few students would do it right)

[ram_k @ramcdk]

@benji_smith @paulnovosad I do think people with less strong critical thinking skills of their own probably have less appreciation of what’s lost when we over-rely on A.I.

And there’s no good solution for this. You don’t know what you don’t know, as they say. 🤷‍♂️

[ram_k @ramcdk]

@benji_smith @paulnovosad I’ve had plenty of in-depth discussions with these LLMs, and have been impressed overall. But I would never suggest a young person rely on AI while still developing their own capacities. It’s counterproductive

[ram_k @ramcdk]

@benji_smith @paulnovosad Over reliance on A.I. means students don’t learn to think. For someone like me, who grew up without it and has developed those independent critical thinking skills, AI can be a useful tool - basically the new age Google.

[ram_k @ramcdk]

@ElminsterD @avidseries Ok, sure, I guess? The original post kind of implied this is a good thing, btw.

[ram_k @ramcdk]

@benji_smith @paulnovosad I guess my point is “using AI” is not a skill that needs to be taught. It’s easy. And likely to only get easier

As for assigning students to read something and then discuss it with AI, that’s fine - but the critical component is the “read” part, not the AI one.

[ram_k @ramcdk]

@ElminsterD @avidseries Well I’m trying to quantify this a little more precisely. For instance, if we were to successfully identify and promote all the top 1% IQ kids out of poverty and send them to college, that would be cool, but would it be enough?

[ram_k @ramcdk]

@JonathanAy7481 @avidseries Lol. People who think this is some kind of insight, much less that the left’s arguments about inequality and social justice stem merely from an inability to comprehend this astoundingly facile observation, are inevitably always from the tail(ish) end of the ability distribution.

[ram_k @ramcdk]

@cpmartin1999c @avidseries Yes but the main debate I think is how low you allow the lower class to fall (and how far up you allow the upper class to ascend).

[ram_k @ramcdk]

@picosaurus @avidseries And maybe (maybe!) society is ok with that. But what if the rich stupid person is also significantly more likely to achieve economic comfort than a poor brilliant person? At some point, the inequalities start to feel problematic, dysfunctional, even immoral.

[ram_k @ramcdk]

@gringoneruda @avidseries This is pretty reasonable. Once we accept it, then the question becomes, from a social policy perspective, to what extent we’re comfortable with inequalities and hierarchies based on these biological (genetic) differences

(I’m not suggesting a right answer! It’s just a key Q)

[ram_k @ramcdk]

@ElminsterD @avidseries I’m not so sure this is true. How many (what % of the total population) of these “low hanging fruit” have been plucked from poverty and elevated?

Effort has been (and should continue to be) expended, yes. But how successful have these efforts been? How far reaching the effects?

[ram_k @ramcdk]

@ProfDBernstein @EricLevitz https://t.co/0UnPNCZ8zR

[ram_k @ramcdk]

@MatthewParrott @thirdmetax They also make the mistake of underestimating pure chance in producing their success. They may be talented, they make work hard, but the crucial third ingredient is almost always right place right time - that is, luck.

[ram_k @ramcdk]

@diddybop125 @organicempireFL @thirdmetax Dude was largely lucky, right place right time. Highly unlikely he could repeat it as he suggests here.

[ram_k @ramcdk]

@aakashgupta 1 this is AI slop

2 while the basic thesis is correct, it’s full of laughably untrue assertions (the cheap paperback was blamed for socially isolating us?? By whom, when?!)

3 the OP wasn’t about the phone’s impact on the subway platform specifically. You’re tilting at windmills

[ram_k @ramcdk]

@benji_smith @paulnovosad A basic issue here is your assumption that “AI skills” can’t be learned by anyone on their own in a few hours/days/weeks at any point in their life, and instead are something worth spending 4 years of college purportedly honing (at the expense of not learning anything else)

[ram_k @ramcdk]

@Jay_Evrryday @NBA__Courtside Exactly. Also shaq’s trying too hard here. Wemby’s a thoughtful guy, not gonna just give some two word answer that says nothing. His honesty isn’t weakness, and it’s totally fine.

[ram_k @ramcdk]

@SahilBloom “Lifemaxxing stack???”

God, man. I hope you’re embarrassed.