@ko_oneill@iqc8sg@CrossAndCaptial@owenjonesjourno My position does not depend on bisexuality being wrong. The important thing for me is that the will of the woman is not ignored. I view people who find ways to force or deceive in order to ignore a woman's will to be immoral.
@ko_oneill@iqc8sg@CrossAndCaptial@owenjonesjourno You can think it is sad that some people are lonely and do not have a partner and also think that forcing or tricking women into sex is not a solution to that. You do not have a right to have someone against their will just because you are lonely.
@ko_oneill@iqc8sg@CrossAndCaptial@owenjonesjourno If it were mutual love the man would care about what the woman wants. The knowledge that, if this person knew the truth, they would not be in a relationship with them or having sex with them should stop a moral person from trying to get their way regardless.
@ko_oneill@iqc8sg@CrossAndCaptial@owenjonesjourno Very bizarre framing. Women are not a means to an end, you trying to characterise getting access to their bodies as some form of healthcare shows that you have some warped views. Stop trying to remove their autonomy in this manipulative way.
@ko_oneill@iqc8sg@CrossAndCaptial@owenjonesjourno Yeah of course. However, if you knowingly deceive a woman because you are aware that she would not want to be in a relationship or have sex with you if she knew this information, then you are doing what I described.
@Rationaliztwt@alumin4t0r@hutchinson@TheRubberBaron@atmas_k If you had a group of 1 million people who were responsible for murdering 100 people and another group of 50 people who were responsible for murdering 20 people, which group would be pound for pound worse in terms of number of murders?