@StevenMBelknap@Luna_zel_ Well now you are making a different claim.
First you said I claimed that a vegan diet was 100% optimal. I did not claim that.
Now you are claiming that I said a vegan diet can be healthy. I did claim that.
I'm not sure if this is language barrier, or if you are just trolling.
@StevenMBelknap@Luna_zel_ Correct, because I never made the claim.
You have the mindset of historical tyrants. If it is optimal for me to participate in the abuse, exploitation, and slaughter of innocent individuals, it would still be immoral to do so. Life is not about me, I am not the main character.
@StevenMBelknap@Luna_zel_ Not sure what you mean by optimal diet. You are not Cell from Dragon Ball Z, you do not need to absorb animals to obtain your final form. There are vegans that are healthier than me, have more muscle than me, and will live longer than me, they are not as fearful as you.
@StevenMBelknap@Luna_zel_ Appealing to evolution is a logical fallacy. Weโve evolved to commit all types of abuse. Youโre just describing what is, instead of what ought to be. Peace and kindness towards the innocent is an ought. Veganism is not anti human, empathy and compassion are human defining traits.
@Luna_zel_@StevenMBelknap This appeal to futility is something that individuals will like to use as a justification for participating in our system of animal exploitation. Some would like to dismiss their duty to be vegan because the responsibility seems difficult.
@tofuafficionado If you thought the topic was wasteful, you could have chosen to just ignore the original post. I'll just take all these distractions you're trying to use as a concession ๐ฅณ
@tofuafficionado Avoid telling me what I'm ok with. You don't know me. I'm here to talk about veganism only. Anything else you create in your head is your own imagination.
@tofuafficionado bro you're the one who replied the original post first. now you're all like "its such a waste of time"...
I'm not interested in your ad homs against the person in the video making the arg. Its just a distraction from the actual arg. I'm only interested in talking about veganism.
@tofuafficionado There is just no way you are actually going to interact with predator argument. Just reflect on that when we get frustrated about non vegans refusing to engage with our arguments, and they'd rather be like "I help more animals than you vegans".
@tofuafficionado If its not an attack, and it has nothing to do with the predator argument, then I have no idea why you're bringing it up.
I think its bad optics for vegans to dodge and have bad arguments when it comes to hard questions. Our logical consistency is our greatest weapon.