Joe Froze

Shitposting my thoughts, also gamble a lot on sports. Follow me for based opinions & sports predictions.

[Joe Froze @realjoefroze]

@jrdnmdhl @GoDawgs999 @tjthurston13 @MikerophoneNFL I'm a little more biased on Frank cuz I'm also a 49ers fan and grew up watching him. I always thought he was a special player and could get in one day, but never had high hopes. I think it's different with Mike man, he could have one of his late peaks with a new MVP QB, who knows

[Joe Froze @realjoefroze]

@jrdnmdhl @GoDawgs999 @tjthurston13 @MikerophoneNFL P.S I’m not criticizing you for having criteria lol, I just disagree with how much weight you’re putting on peak vs. the totality of a career. Greatness and longevity aren't mutually exclusive! At this point we’re just going in circles, so I’m tapping out 😂

[Joe Froze @realjoefroze]

@jrdnmdhl @Lusyddd @P4RTYNO @GoDawgs999 @tjthurston13 @MikerophoneNFL Last reply: You don’t have to think Evans was ever top-5 to think he’s a HOFer. 13K+ yards, 100+ TDs, and 10 straight 1,000-yard seasons aren’t erased by a lack of All-Pros. I'm not dismissing him like you are because of lack of accolades. I do respect ur argument tho, fun times.

[Joe Froze @realjoefroze]

@jrdnmdhl @tjthurston13 @MikerophoneNFL This is a nothingburger man, straight straw man. YOU wanted to bring up peaks, YOU wanted to bring up 1st team all pros, YOU wanted to bring up the whole career. I'm not sure anyone in this thread understands your point beyond he's the WR version of Frank Gore😂

[Joe Froze @realjoefroze]

@jrdnmdhl @tjthurston13 @MikerophoneNFL It's funny he says this but when you bring up the entire career he just wants to point out specific peak years or how he was never 1st place in anything or some other cope

[Joe Froze @realjoefroze]

@jrdnmdhl @Lusyddd @P4RTYNO @GoDawgs999 @tjthurston13 @MikerophoneNFL We're talking about football bro, you aren't "inherently correct." I never said your points aren't good, they just had holes in them or more nuance. I'm not on here looking for your worthiness of consideration. Just think Mike's career needs more respect and is HOF worthy.

[Joe Froze @realjoefroze]

@jrdnmdhl @Lusyddd @P4RTYNO @GoDawgs999 @tjthurston13 @MikerophoneNFL Guess we'll come back to this in like 10 years when he gets in. You're gonna be like "that fucking guy, I kept telling him peak and all pros were the only thing that mattered, guess that didn't matter." For now I failed to convince you, so I guess I lose the argument. Here 👉🍪

[Joe Froze @realjoefroze]

@Lusyddd @P4RTYNO @jrdnmdhl @GoDawgs999 @tjthurston13 @MikerophoneNFL Devin Hester, Bobby Mitchell, Bob Hayes, Tommy McDonald, Sterling Sharpe, John Stallworth, all players with less score than Mike Evans currently in the HOF. Mike is also 4 points away from being in Calvin Johnson & Davante Adams territory. Your formula proves my point.

[Joe Froze @realjoefroze]

@Lusyddd @jrdnmdhl @P4RTYNO @GoDawgs999 @tjthurston13 @MikerophoneNFL lol, "i mute anyone I disagree with" be a man and have a twitter debate about football bro. you brought up some website and a score. i'm pushing back on that and i'm the hypocrite for pointing out your narrow argument.

[Joe Froze @realjoefroze]

@jrdnmdhl @Lusyddd @P4RTYNO @GoDawgs999 @tjthurston13 @MikerophoneNFL Yeah dude, I did. Can't you read, I disagree with it? There are multiple sides to this argument not just your pretentious one. The fact it's even a debate shows he belongs in this convo, and he's still an active player so he's still accumulating stats/accolades

[Joe Froze @realjoefroze]

@jrdnmdhl @tjthurston13 @MikerophoneNFL And my argument is, are we really reducing everything down to 1st team all pros and 1st place finishes for a player whose career wasn't about just pure dominance in a few year stretch? Sure his peak isn't near Rice at all, but I bring him in as a peer in consistent production.

[Joe Froze @realjoefroze]

@jrdnmdhl @tjthurston13 @MikerophoneNFL Didn't address any of my arguments about lack of QB or the fact he had a Pro-Bowl WR sharing targets for almost 10 years. Didn't address 2018 Michael Thomas snubbing him at all. If u want to say his peak isn't better than Adams, fine. But you simply cannot ignore the statistics.

[Joe Froze @realjoefroze]

@Lusyddd @P4RTYNO @jrdnmdhl @GoDawgs999 @tjthurston13 @MikerophoneNFL It's good that someone like you isn't actually voting on people getting into the HOF. It takes a little critical thinking to consider multiple different arguments for such a nuanced career. It's fine to disagree but you haven't even addressed my argument in the slightest. Bye 👋

[Joe Froze @realjoefroze]

@Lusyddd @P4RTYNO @jrdnmdhl @GoDawgs999 @tjthurston13 @MikerophoneNFL Glad you got a chuckle, I did the same when I saw the only argument you've produced so far is his HOF score & no one without a 1st AP got in. Indeed, anyone that just sits on the couch and looks up his stats would miss how he had an identical season to the winner over 2 times.

[Joe Froze @realjoefroze]

@Lusyddd @GoDawgs999 @jrdnmdhl @tjthurston13 @MikerophoneNFL That's crazy then that some bum down in Tampa Bay had more yards, 200 less catches, like 6 less TDs, and only played with a great QB for 3 years unlike Adams having MVP Rodgers and MVP Stafford, and HE is somehow a champion? You're right, he is in a different category, SB winner!

[Joe Froze @realjoefroze]

@jrdnmdhl @P4RTYNO @GoDawgs999 @tjthurston13 @MikerophoneNFL Bro literally didn't even respond to the facts, just repeated his own mumbo-jumbo "these are my criteria"

[Joe Froze @realjoefroze]

@jrdnmdhl @GoDawgs999 @tjthurston13 @MikerophoneNFL Again, this argument you're making sounds like you're making yourself the arbiter for who gets in based on your criteria. By the end of this season he'll be close to top 10 yards ever, top 7-8 TDs ever, AGAIN all of this with 200 CATCHES LESS than Davante Adams who is also HOF.

[Joe Froze @realjoefroze]

@Lusyddd @P4RTYNO @jrdnmdhl @GoDawgs999 @tjthurston13 @MikerophoneNFL 'Really good' according to couch stat-watchers, I suppose. Comparing him to Boldin when he's literally already surpassed his TDs by over 20, will beat his yards this season and be over 14,000, and has played over a season less with 3 more pro-bowls is insane. He's 100% HOF.

[Joe Froze @realjoefroze]

@jrdnmdhl @tjthurston13 @MikerophoneNFL Additionally the player you mentioned: Davante Adams has less yards and 200 more catches with similar TDs. Played in multiple seasons with 2 different MVP QBs and a guy down in Tampa Bay never finishing 1st in anything has better stats and a Super Bowl ring, puzzling...🤔

[Joe Froze @realjoefroze]

@jrdnmdhl @tjthurston13 @MikerophoneNFL Also I know you don't care about consistency but nobody is ignoring his 11 straight years because he didn't finish 1st in any category (shared with Godwin since 2017). We've literally only seen 1 other receiver have similar consistent production and his #80 jersey is in Canton.