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@PronouncedHare Erb

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@FloorPlanGuyNZ @MaximusNortius This is conspiracy theory stuff. If they planned to sell it, why put those explicit protections against that in the legislation, which they wrote.

They aren’t playing 4D chess.

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OK, either you don't understand the difference between owning and operating an asset, or you are deliberately conflating the two for political reasons.

> Local Water Done Well does not guarantee ownership stays with communities

This is completely wrong. I think your sources on this must be biased or incorrect. Let me help correct you.

Here's the specific bits of the legislation that govern this:

https://t.co/l4sbrX9xXf
Section 45.1 "Trustees that hold shares in a water organisation may only transfer those shares to a local authority or the trustees of another consumer trust."

https://t.co/nBvIzLsvYm
Section 20.1 "A water service provider must not—
(a)
use the assets of its water services networks as security for any purpose; or
(b)
transfer its ownership of water services infrastructure or of any other interest in a water service; or
(c)
lose control of, sell, or otherwise dispose of the significant water services infrastructure necessary for providing water services in its service area, unless it retains its capacity to meet its obligations;"

It is literally there in quite readable form. You can't sell the infra, or if you transfer the infra to a water services org (e.g. watercare or tiaki wai), then you can't sell the shares of those orgs.

Control is democratic - we will either vote for the authority councilors or the water trust's trustees. They might appoint someone like Veolia to run it, but that's just a contract to run it. If you don't like it, you can vote out the board and they can cancel or opt not to renew it.

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Water done well includes explicit protections against assets being sold, so it sounds like you’ve used some low fact sources for your info.

I don’t doubt there were some who opposed it for racist purposes but we don’t tar everyone with the same brush do we? If you want to paint half the country because of the actions of a small few, then I suggest you examine your own biases and prejudices.

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@AynRandy666 Ah yes, a spontaneous yet somehow coordinated media campaign to change something. First time?

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@AucklandIsland Atlas network scary stuff is so 7 years ago, just like this story

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@AucklandIsland The Industrial Revolution was a mistake. We should all go back to being subsistence farmers.

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The only people who believe that are racial supremacists who live in their own bubble. You are as bad as the racists on the other side.

The centre disagreed with you, and voted your principals out. It was bad law, with no guarantees of improvement and a serious lack of accountability.

If you feel the need to fall back on racism as an excuse, knock yourself out, but it won't help you get better.

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@MaximusNortius You would call the bill far right propaganda? Do you even read what you write? Bot.

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@MaximusNortius If by that, you mean the text of the Water Services Entities Act 2022, then yes - but I wouldn't characterise it as that personally.

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@neyikaybettik yes, british palestine mandate.

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@FullTwatforward @NZGreens She’s definitely of any gender

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@Suitandtie9999 A chicken in every pot, a sweater on every mentally ill obese person with blue hair

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@Tom_R_Alliance Excuse me we don’t call it “child labour” we call it “work experience”

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@Tiare_MP Nah, a republic and president peters or president brash

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@frogNscorpion Eh, that looks like common or garden NI sectarian stuff to me

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Corruption implies someone was getting paid for it illegally, who do you think was getting paid?

Otherwise, if there's no quid pro quo, then isn't it just doing it because they thought it was the right thing to do, and someone went to the effort of drawing it up for them?

I mean, when the NZCTU basically wrote the Fair Pay Agreements Act, what's the difference?

On the coverup thing, that could well be the case. I need to read about that. Often the coverup ends up being worse than the "crime".

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@WREMOinfo So tiresome

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@GregPresland