It doesn’t need to be FDA approved. That approval binds the manufacturers’ (health claims) and constrains practitioners. Supplements exist as a class for consumers to make their own choices based upon what works for them.
I use it for chronic pain. It works for me. There is no medical evidence it is doing me any harm (8+ years). No deviation from pre-use values in lab work, imaging. No increased pacing or defibrillation.
I only know what it is because my approved pain medication from my doctor was stopped against my will without warning or recourse.
If I stop some of my approved and prescribed medications I will not live long.
Other approved and prescribed medications (like farxiga as a risk reduction tool), if circumstances demanded it, I’d readily stop before kratom because they are doing me less good.
OTC pain medications are contraindicated (NSAIDs) or were not effective for me.
I’m glad this second pathway exists for consumers abandoned by the medical system or for whom all other options have been exhausted (or withheld from them.)
This insistence to hold to FDA drug approval is reasonable for a practitioner within the scope of the practice of medicine, but is horrifically narrow for citizens as a legislator, which Congress universally understood when passing DSHEA in 1994.
It doesn’t need to be FDA approved. That approval binds the manufacturers’ (health claims) and constrains practitioners. Supplements exist as a class for consumers to make their own choices based upon what works for them.
I use it for chronic pain. It works for me. There is no medical evidence it is doing me any harm (8+ years). No deviation from pre-use values in lab work, imaging. No increased pacing or defibrillation.
I only know what it is because my approved pain medication from my doctor was stopped against my will without warning or recourse.
If I stop some of my approved and prescribed medications I will not live long.
Other approved and prescribed medications (like farxiga as a risk reduction tool), if circumstances demanded it, I’d readily stop before kratom because they are doing me less good.
OTC pain medications are contraindicated (NSAIDs) or were not effective for me.
I’m glad this second pathway exists for consumers abandoned by the medical system or for whom all other options have been exhausted (or withheld from them.)
This insistence to hold to FDA drug approval is reasonable for a practitioner within the scope of the practice of medicine, but is horrifically narrow for citizens as a legislator, which Congress universally understood when passing DSHEA in 1994.
It is regulated. (OCGA. § 16-13-120, et. seq., Federal Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act)
The synthetic products causing problems are already federally scheduled (MGM-15/16, MGPI). The remaining one (7-OH) is under notice of intent and will be federally scheduled as soon as November 13th.
What does the AG know that FDA, HHS, DEA, NIDA, and the UN Commission on Narcotic Drugs not know?
These are already illegal to sell in Georgia. Law enforcement should be enforcing them.
Advocates and industry associations suggested an excise tax and product registry to aid enforcement. Total Prohibitionists balked at it as not good enough.
Now adult chronic pain patients are being asked to take the hit because of inadequate enforcement of already illegal products sold by criminals.
@jtpleeze@AntiKratom Probably. Though it is possible without it. I get the manufacturers chasing easy money. I don’t like it, but I get it.
These folks will still be screaming about it after those synthetics are scheduled.
It is regulated. (OCGA. § 16-13-120, et. seq.)
The synthetic products causing problems are already federally scheduled (MGM-15/16, MGPI). The remaining one (7-OH) is under notice of intent and will be federally scheduled as soon as November 13th.
What does the AG know that FDA, HHS, DEA, NIDA, and the UN Commission on Narcotic Drugs not know?
These are already illegal to sell in Georgia. Law enforcement should be enforcing them.
Advocates and industry associations suggested an excise tax and product registry to aid enforcement. Total Prohibitionists balked at it as not good enough.
Now adult chronic pain patients are being asked to take the hit because of inadequate enforcement of already illegal products sold by criminals.
If it is “poison”, why have I taken botanical kratom approximately 11,800 times with no demonstrable effect on cardiac, liver, and kidney labs or imaging. My EKG unchanged. Two different defibrillators never fired.
It manages my disability. I can do things I can’t without it. It doesn’t create one.
Clearly differentiate the products as state and federal law does.
Remove the dangerous products already federally illegal (more coming next month) and already illegal to sell in GA.
Prosecute the sellers. Prosecute those selling underage. Enforce the law that already exists.
@I_Trudge@Owennfa I’m not saying take the first warm body and that hiring poorly isn’t riskless. I am saying at some point it begs the question why a position continually goes unfilled if many reasonable applicants that meet the letter of the qualifications aren’t acceptable.
@Thereal_JamieO@Georgia_AG Yeah. It wasn’t my fault my ribs didn’t heal properly after CPR when I had a massive heart attack. I didn’t ask for them to be stopped 8 years later either.
Anyone can become a pain patient in a moment, and they’ll quickly learn why it is so important for us to have options.
Taking off a respirator multiple times can affect fit and decrease efficacy.
For the folks with severe health conditions who need or want that level of protection, and willing to go through the hassle and expense, a half measure isn’t an attractive option.
Anything worth doing is worth doing correctly.
I’m a parent. Whatever my minor child does or encounters is 100% my absolute responsibility.
Others may share that responsibility at times, but in no circumstance do those situations diminish my ultimate responsibility by even a hair.
Nothing allows me to offload that responsibility onto other people, organizations, or the state.
Kratom is regulated in GA.
Those who are mislabeling or selling illegal products are breaking the law. Enforce them. Arrest them. Incarcerate them. AG or local law enforcement.
Responsible producers welcome reasonable regulation. Most tolerate excise taxes to fund enforcement. Many of the synthetic products are now federally Schedule I and more will be next month. Enforce it like any other drug crime.
Opponents such as Rep. Townsend have rejected those proposals because they’ll settle for nothing less than total prohibition.
Once again chronic pain patients, many of whom have exhausted all other options and are are treated worse than animals in PM practices, get ignored along with other law abiding citizens because some retailers aren’t complying with the law the state already has the power and duty to enforce.
It is illegal and wrong to sell these products to minors, or sell products in formulations not legal in the state, just like alcohol and tobacco.
Enforce the law. It is your job and ultimately your failure if it isn’t happening.
Patients and consumers shouldn’t have to take the hit for what you and the state’s law enforcement personnel are failing at.
Doctors do not haphazardly give medical cannabis cards to minors. It involves their parent and medical judgement that the rewards outweigh the risks like any other recommended medication.
Minors otherwise should not be using it. Adults have a legal responsibility to keep all age gated products in their possession away from minors.
Once again chronic pain patients, many of whom have exhausted all other options and are are treated worse than animals in PM practices, get ignored along with other law abiding citizens because some retailers aren’t complying with the law the state already has the power and duty to enforce.
It is illegal and wrong to sell these products to minors, or sell products in formulations not legal in the state, just like alcohol and tobacco.
Enforce the law. It is your job and ultimately your failure if it isn’t happening.
Patients and consumers shouldn’t have to take the hit for what you and the state’s law enforcement personnel are failing at.
California doesn’t automatically import the federal schedules into state law. Local PD can only enforce state law.
What CDPH has done barring sales is enforced by county health and regulatory agencies where the sellers have liquor licenses, not local PD.
It is a regulatory quagmire here, not actual C-I prohibition
(good or bad), for purposes of enforcement or criticism.