Rhaeka

[Rhaeka @RhaekaRS]

@bluwunk 100% agree. I may not like the build still but this is totally right and very good senna players used to do this using some of her older numbers too. First season I hit master was doing this with double support item.

[Rhaeka @RhaekaRS]

@seraph_league Totally agree. Think this patch PTA and then Bork Shiv LDR or Cylo Shiv LDR were very solid cores. Still liked helm start.

You think after nerfs shiv not viable? Not sure how important I feel the Q interaction nerf is.

[Rhaeka @RhaekaRS]

@A_dmg04 Are the reprised heresy weapons such as psychopomp in any loot pool? Haven't seen any confirmation as to them being obtained anywhere but xur, which is super lame.

[Rhaeka @RhaekaRS]

@ninjyy How do you build up gear shift on this for dps?

[Rhaeka @RhaekaRS]

@MoleculeLOL The real question is why are we not seeing PTA. You get a better tree and you get the damage always on the target you need it on.

[Rhaeka @RhaekaRS]

@oni_peko_ @akuumu_ Yeah but its a worse frame

[Rhaeka @RhaekaRS]

@rmdyGG Wait dungeons have attunement now?

[Rhaeka @RhaekaRS]

@bluwunk @wisomm_ Okay well I apologize for that comment then. I genuinely forgot about it and didn't mean harm by it. I like talking about Senna though and I like new ideas. I really think you should try some games where you dont rush Shiv. Its so strong 2nd item instead of first. And PTA

[Rhaeka @RhaekaRS]

@bluwunk @wisomm_ Fair enough genuinely didnt remember that but that was a diff thread. I did genuinely try to have a discussion in this one so idk

[Rhaeka @RhaekaRS]

@bluwunk @wisomm_ That's not what I said though...I said I thought it was fake and then elaborated a bit. Totally not the same thing..?

[Rhaeka @RhaekaRS]

@bluwunk @wisomm_ I feel like your response was pretty rude given i was just trying to have a discussion but w.e i guess. I'm passionate about the champion and don't agree with some of your reasonings and choices. Also i'm not a him.

[Rhaeka @RhaekaRS]

@bluwunk @wisomm_ I mean I literally just tested this in practice tool on targets with various amounts of armor and if Hex vs PD is the *only* part of the build you change then PD does like 5% more damage if you have 100% auto attack uptime and dont use W or R.

[Rhaeka @RhaekaRS]

@34daynean Pretty sure dft is fake on her after the cleaver changes. Like it's not bad but PTA is just better if you're the carry and can play the champ well. Dft is just lower skill

[Rhaeka @RhaekaRS]

@Bread_Piksol @xFSN_Saber Statik does not help with waveclear in any significant manner. This is some crazy idea people are still saying that just isnt true. Go test in customs. It saves you 1-2 autos per wave tops at most stages of the game in exchange for terrible build path 1st item.

[Rhaeka @RhaekaRS]

@xFSN_Saber Also feel like with Shiv + Cleaver unless youre super ahead you just cant ever get through tanks/bruisers

[Rhaeka @RhaekaRS]

@xFSN_Saber I feel like Shiv first item is just so weak due to components and DFT doesnt do more damage than PTA is going to do. Bork first or Cyclo first into Shiv feels so much stronger of a curve. Feel like you can still do Muramana with that build

[Rhaeka @RhaekaRS]

@bluwunk There's also no way PD is even close to as much damage as hexoptics. You're wasting almost 1k for buying it bc of the attack speed. Idk I'd do so much differently here.

[Rhaeka @RhaekaRS]

@bluwunk Yes lol. Shiv has terrible build path and the waveclear is really overrated. It's way better second item. Dft is just worse than PTA if you're the carry.