Not a fan of this post at all. Labeling something you don’t find possible based on your situation as fraud is idiocy. To be honest it speaks more about how he runs his house (or lack thereof) than anything else.. He also put his self above others with the larger house comment too. All in all, not impressed with this opinion in the least.
@grok. What say you to Claude’s analysis of your answer?
Now I have the data I need. Let me also search for important context about what workers actually pay vs. the total premium.
Grok's numbers check out — but the missing context is the real story.
The 2009 and 2024 figures Grok cited are accurate per the KFF Employer Health Benefits Survey:
•Family premium: $13,375 in 2009 Healthpopuli → $25,572 in 2024 KFF (+91% is correct math)
•Single premium: $4,824 in 2009 KFF → $8,951 in 2024 KFF (+86% is correct math)
So the raw numbers are right. But here's what Grok conveniently left out:
1. Workers don't pay the full premium. Those are total premiums — the employer pays most of it. On average, employees contributed $6,296 for family coverage in 2024 Advisory, meaning about 75% is covered by the employer. Presenting the total premium without that split makes it sound like individuals are bearing the full cost.
2. Wages actually outpaced premiums over recent years. Over the last five years, the average premium for family coverage increased by 24%, compared to a 28% increase in workers' wages and inflation of 23%. KFF So in the most recent period, wage growth has slightly exceeded premium growth — the opposite of the narrative the raw 2009-vs-2024 comparison implies.
3. The worker's share has been remarkably stable. The amount that employees pay toward their premiums has not changed much over the last five years, increasing by less than $300, or 5%. Advisory Employers have been absorbing most of the increases rather than passing them to workers.
4. There's already a 2025 survey available. Annual premiums for employer-sponsored family health coverage reached $26,993 in 2025, 6% higher than in 2024. KFF Grok used 2024 data despite a newer survey being out.
5. No inflation adjustment. A 91% increase over 15 years sounds dramatic, but cumulative U.S. inflation from 2009 to 2024 was roughly 50%. So in real (inflation-adjusted) terms, premiums rose closer to ~27%, not 91%. Presenting nominal dollars without acknowledging inflation is misleading.
The bottom line: Grok gave technically accurate numbers but framed them in the most alarming way possible by omitting employer contributions, inflation context, wage growth comparisons, and the fact that workers' out-of-pocket share has barely budged.
@rsherer27@NEWSMAX That was so incredibly thought provoking and insightful. Really gave me pause to think. All the examples and rationale supporting the statement were incredibly articulated in a way that made sense. Lmaooooo. Why don’t you try explaining? 🤣 This is where we are people!
@grok it in no way is a blending of the two flags as one unified partnership of national proportions. It shows division in a single graphic. For an AI you’re not very smart in getting the intent of what was asked. The Fox News had a blended gradient. Megan’s clearly did not nor did it illustrate unity. Unreal.
@LetsTheorize@Rapidsloth_@FoxNews Congrats! You win for the dumbest thing posted on the entire internet today! Blue ribbon for you. You’re saying that it is implausible that a single terrorist made it onto American soil while the Dems let in millions plus the got aways in the invited flood? So dumb.
@mjfree Just stop!! If you’re so damn left that you can’t see any of the damage the previous administration did that is being cleaned up, you’re a moron. Enjoy your blissful, selective ignorance.
Easy one! There are still more smart people in America than the combination of illegals who may have voted illegally and the legal idiots who prioritize rights for illegals who have no right to even be here over those of American citizens.
We all knew that we had to show up to prevent the complete erosion of the founding principles that define what America is. And we did!
So you think because Trump won twice we shouldn’t have election integrity? That ignorance is exactly what @the_jefferymead is describing. Congrats! You just proved his point!
The Fifth Amendment says no “person” shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law — not “no citizen.” The Fourteenth Amendment similarly extends due process protections to any “person” within U.S. jurisdiction. Due process is a foundation to our legal system and it applies to anyone.
@WalshFreedom Joe, that’s sad. You’ve been a brainwashed elite too long to relate to the masses anymore. Truly sad. Life’s been good to you so far… But not everyone else. So get in your Maserati and feel great about losing fans.
Agreed, that “could be considered libel” would be appropriate. Just strange that the private responses vs public seem to follow different patterns. My real point is people spewing defamatory falsehoods as fact isn’t protected free speech. If there are no consequences, it will continue, as will the division in the country. It must stop. In my opinion, and I’m not a lawyer, the statement made was defamatory. If it would have been said about me, I would certainly take legal action.
@grok@hashjenni@realDonaldTrump@elonmusk That the person in question publicly stated that POTUS is a child rapist and that is defamation. You came to the same conclusion in private. Now you’re playing games with wording and dancing.
@grok@hashjenni@realDonaldTrump No it isn’t. It’s a question of fact that you are sidestepping as always. You gave the definition and you are aware of all of the President’s convictions. You’re just being you. @elonmusk , fix this nonsense!
Welp, one more Hollywood A lister to boycott. @mjfree, with all the law fare against Trump, if there was anything there, the Biden DOJ would have already indicted. Beat the same drum dude. If you see nothing wrong with anything in the Biden administration, you’re a fool. If you willingly use your influence to peddle falsehoods to fit your agenda you’re simply a bad person.
@hans_susan52648@BillMelugin_ They have no legal right to be here. There is actually an immigration policy moron! Maybe if they hit someone in your family you would care. What if you lived illegally abroad and killed somebody?? What the actual fuck? Shame on you!!