@brentwpeterson @Sisu_Runner @slicknet +1 for XML books. I really loved them. Anybody who can say that probably ended up building on Magento 😉
Also QBASIC is where I cut my teeth in programming.
@ShaunMccran@AaronSheehan@philwinkle @dazz0_716 @kalenjordan@willemwigman@max_pronko The consulting arm is what handles automatic upgrades, though, right? I guess this is where the SaaS definition is fuzzy for me.
What clients are actually using it? I come from a part of the ecosystem where upgrades are a challenge / it’s not possible for the vendor to manage.
@ShaunMccran @dazz0_716 @AaronSheehan@philwinkle@kalenjordan@willemwigman@max_pronko True. Headless in particular I hear in SMB circles. Maybe it’s the generation of “digital natives” eager for modern tech. I don’t know. But the terms are often thrown around as table stakes without real knowledge of what it means, takes, or COSTS.
@AaronSheehan@philwinkle @dazz0_716 @kalenjordan@willemwigman@max_pronko The article says that those are the most common traits of SaaS, not a MUST have. But point taken. General consensus should consider vendor-provided updates as a qualifier 👍
@AaronSheehan@philwinkle @dazz0_716 @kalenjordan@willemwigman@max_pronko Yea. Admittedly I smirk when I hear it called SaaS. But it reinforces my question about its definition. As Phil said, more of “it’s all relative,” maybe. We adapt the term to fit our understanding or to be counted. My question is whether there’s an authority on it.
@AaronSheehan@philwinkle @dazz0_716 @kalenjordan@willemwigman@max_pronko Well I guess we’re expanding the definition of SaaS then, or refining it. Anyway yes it does for patches by some definition using ECE tools. For upgrades of course not but I don’t see that as a requirement for SaaS qualification. Is there an official definition?
@AaronSheehan@philwinkle @dazz0_716 @kalenjordan@willemwigman@max_pronko They do, though. Even if it’s white-labeled. Does that really matter to qualify it as SaaS? Isn’t Shopify or BC just private software deployed on a Cloud and probably relying on some of that provider’s managed services?
@AaronSheehan@philwinkle @dazz0_716 @kalenjordan@willemwigman@max_pronko Agreed. That’s why I think we need to define it better (as a community). And yes I have heard that. It’s “SaaS on a PaaS.” 😆 but really is that wrong? It’s deployed, managed software in the cloud.
@AaronSheehan@willemwigman@kalenjordan@max_pronko True. How do we define “composable” then? If I can activate a single function of a platform and deploy it in my commerce stack, that’s composable. Technically Magento can do this but mileage varies greatly 😆