People don't disbelieve the book of Mormon b/c it takes too much faith.
We reject the BoM because 1️⃣ it directly contradicts the Bible (key for Christians) and 2️⃣ it's been proven historically and blatantly false in a number of key places (key for everyone)
Genuine question, if the Book of Mormon is too crazy to believe because it takes faith (golden plates, angels, ancient prophets) then why do y’all believe the Bible? Talking snake, virgin birth, global flood, resurrection from the dead… that also takes faith. Why one but not the other?
@theBasedBarbie People don't disbelieve the book of Mormon b/c it takes too much faith.
We reject the BoM because 1️⃣ it directly contradicts the Bible (key for Christians) and 2️⃣ it's been proven historically and blatantly false in a number of key places (key for everyone)
Hoy estuve hablando con mi novio de esto y me dijo que el si lo tendría, que los niños con esa condición también merecen tener una oportunidad y ser queridos… yo ahora creo que vamos a separarnos..
I’ve never seen such hate and vitriol for two people grieving the loss of their unborn child and making an impossible decision.
The last 24 hours have exposed a side of humanity that is deeply disturbing. Being called “murderous pieces of shit, evil, compared to Hitler” and receiving NON-STOP DEATH THREATS.
Seeing my 6-year old dog with Stage 4 Kidney Disease be used as a weapon, manipulating my words and intent in a tweet or saying we’ll regret this decision forever and must repent to God is absolute insanity.
If you ever wanted to marvel at the depravity of people online, just check the replies on my latest tweet. It’s a shit-show of epic proportions. This is reflective of the current world and landscape we’re all living in.
What’s more troubling is a lot of these people use God or Jesus as their justification for threatening us and wanting to cast us into Hell…seems pretty hypocritical.
So many saying they would’ve kept the child, put it up for adoption or are suddenly ready to adopt a down syndrome child, that’s great! You can do all those things. However, many of the people throwing stones don’t even have children, let alone one with a condition and most likely will never do the things they say they’re going to do.
There has been some heinous shit said about my wife and I on some extremely large accounts…It baffles me that there are such trashy-ass people who have significant followings. If you can’t contribute anything meaningful to the conversation aside from insults then just don’t post.
On the other hand, there has been tremendous stories of people who kept their Down Syndrome baby and that’s awesome! Very courageous and they do look very happy! That is your choice and I support it. This was ours and we can do that. It’s very easy to accept the differences between us when it has no actual bearing on your life.
What shocked me most of all was that this story has become mainstream news…A couple’s abortion is suddenly newsworthy in 2026…?
There are over 1,000,000 abortions every single year for a myriad of reasons, this is happening on a DAILY BASIS and is the most common outcome for Trisomy 21, yet this one blows up and people are surprised…?
The reason this blew up is quite simple: IT’S BECAUSE NOBODY TALKS ABOUT IT.
I can’t blame people for not talking about these vulnerable experiences publicly because you see the disgusting backlash that ensues. It’s very divisive. Luckily, after 20 years on the Internet, this is par the course for me taking on the crazies, so I’m glad I can help further the conversation.
That’s exactly why I wanted to share this story. People still need to see vulnerability and hear the raw truth. There is real suffering going on and it is being done in silence and fear.
So many mothers have reached out privately commending us on our bravery to speak truthfully about this topic and we really appreciate that support! We want you to feel less alone in this and less ashamed.
There has never been a more important time to speak up and out about the things that matter. Do not let the vocal minority stop you from sharing your truth.
To those who have been affected by this or are confronted with a similar situation in the future, we have your back and please feel free to reach out. I’m sure this will follow us awhile especially when we try for a kid again in the near future.
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This week, my wife and I made the very difficult decision to terminate the pregnancy due to Trisomy 21.
The choice was not made lightly. We really appreciate all of the personal stories that you guys shared with us, especially the unconditional support we received from fans with no matter what we decided.
I know some of you may be very disappointed to hear this news. We are devastated. This has been extremely traumatic for both of us, especially Ashley.
She underwent the procedure earlier this week and is on the mend. Thankfully, everything went smoothly, but emotionally we are drained.
Trisomy 21, also known as Down Syndrome, is caused by an extra chromosome. It is caused by an error in cell division, like a glitch. The odds of a baby having it is 1 in 1000.
When I first confronted this news, I was shocked but optimistic. If they’re a little slow intellectually, then we’ll make it work. I signed on to be a parent, come what may…but I just didn’t fully understand what Down Syndrome entailed.
Once we made it public, it became clear that MOST people don’t know what Down Syndrome entails (and no, it’s not the same as Autism):
50% of babies with DS have heart defects. 75% will have hearing challenges. Over 50% will have vision problems. Impaired immune function, developmental disabilities, learning disabilities, delayed physical development, poor muscle tone, structural issues with face, decreased lifespan, etc…Sadly, the list is long, feel free to look it up…Down Syndome isn’t a “blessing”, it is objectively shitty from a health perspective.
I didn’t realize just how rough it is for the child, let alone the family…more often than not, they would be fully dependent on others for the rest of their life.
The miscarriage risk is also close to 50%, which made matters worse…they may never see the light of day and it puts Ashley further at risk.
We spoke with doctors, friends, family and genetic counselors and learned that up to 90% of women terminate their pregnancy after learning the baby has Trisomy 21.
This was WAY higher than I expected, I thought it would be lower given that I hear so many say they kept or would keep the baby. I believe that’s because most terminations happen privately, it feels shameful. A lot of judgment being cast.
You never think you’d be in this type of situation until it happens to you and then things change.
To all of my fans who have weighed in on this topic who have Autism, Down Syndrome or any other conditions…we appreciate you. You matter a lot and we’re glad you’re here. I commend you and your families for having the strength and courage to push forward.
As for us, we made a difficult decision that we believe in the long-run will be beneficial for our family. Thankfully, we had a choice.
It will take a little time to move on, but we are excited to try again in the future and hopefully have a better outcome.
Love you guys & thank you for understanding. ❤️
Nobody is empathizing with this murderer
He's calling it Trisomy 21 because people don't understand the term
Call it Downs Syndrome and people will realize how terrible of a human Jesse is
Around 1/3 of adults with Downs Syndrome live independently
This week, my wife and I made the very difficult decision to terminate the pregnancy due to Trisomy 21.
The choice was not made lightly. We really appreciate all of the personal stories that you guys shared with us, especially the unconditional support we received from fans with no matter what we decided.
I know some of you may be very disappointed to hear this news. We are devastated. This has been extremely traumatic for both of us, especially Ashley.
She underwent the procedure earlier this week and is on the mend. Thankfully, everything went smoothly, but emotionally we are drained.
Trisomy 21, also known as Down Syndrome, is caused by an extra chromosome. It is caused by an error in cell division, like a glitch. The odds of a baby having it is 1 in 1000.
When I first confronted this news, I was shocked but optimistic. If they’re a little slow intellectually, then we’ll make it work. I signed on to be a parent, come what may…but I just didn’t fully understand what Down Syndrome entailed.
Once we made it public, it became clear that MOST people don’t know what Down Syndrome entails (and no, it’s not the same as Autism):
50% of babies with DS have heart defects. 75% will have hearing challenges. Over 50% will have vision problems. Impaired immune function, developmental disabilities, learning disabilities, delayed physical development, poor muscle tone, structural issues with face, decreased lifespan, etc…Sadly, the list is long, feel free to look it up…Down Syndome isn’t a “blessing”, it is objectively shitty from a health perspective.
I didn’t realize just how rough it is for the child, let alone the family…more often than not, they would be fully dependent on others for the rest of their life.
The miscarriage risk is also close to 50%, which made matters worse…they may never see the light of day and it puts Ashley further at risk.
We spoke with doctors, friends, family and genetic counselors and learned that up to 90% of women terminate their pregnancy after learning the baby has Trisomy 21.
This was WAY higher than I expected, I thought it would be lower given that I hear so many say they kept or would keep the baby. I believe that’s because most terminations happen privately, it feels shameful. A lot of judgment being cast.
You never think you’d be in this type of situation until it happens to you and then things change.
To all of my fans who have weighed in on this topic who have Autism, Down Syndrome or any other conditions…we appreciate you. You matter a lot and we’re glad you’re here. I commend you and your families for having the strength and courage to push forward.
As for us, we made a difficult decision that we believe in the long-run will be beneficial for our family. Thankfully, we had a choice.
It will take a little time to move on, but we are excited to try again in the future and hopefully have a better outcome.
Love you guys & thank you for understanding. ❤️
Richard has kids and has decided people should be allowed to kill them because they're inconvenient
Apparently it's impossible for atheists to envision how someone could possibly have high quality life if they have an illness
Don't be like Richard
Having children has made me a lot more pro-choice.
Taking care of children is hard. Part of the payoff is imagining them living full lives as adults.
I don’t know how anyone could find the motivation to take care of them if they knew that wasn’t possible. That’s why only religious people don’t abort in these situations.
The same people who proudly say you don't need theistic faith to be moral turn right around and talk about deciding for someone else if it's better for them to be born or not
If you really want to make that argument from a non-theistic stance, the most moral action is to let the person decide for themselves
Do Christians imagine all the babies they save through their right-to-life efforts end up Christians and heavenbound? Do they ever consider they might not make the “right choice” and would have been better off not being born?
Living in Lala Land is hard to reconcile in real life
@jerseyh0mo@GemmaNoiosi Trans ideology is the most invasive because it’s a glorified mental illness. Provide definitive and incontrovertible evidence that boys are really girls or furries or fluid or non right now or shut up.
There are 2 equally legitimate ways to view the text.
Regardless, both passages command 1 pair of unclean animals.
Gen 6 commands one pair of clean. Gen 7 commands 7 pairs of clean ... which includes the one pair from chapter 6. Not contradictory.
1️⃣ Gen 6 takes place when Noah receives the instruction and Gen 7 when he enters the ark. A further clarifying word before entering the ark wouldn't be unreasonable -- the 7 pairs speaks specifically to the animals required for sacrifice as well as to sustenance
2️⃣ Two circulating accounts about the flood. One mentions the 7 pairs and one doesn't 🤷♂️ Because we accept that the Bible was written by man and not penned directly by God, a detail mentionedin one place but not another just isn't an issue.
@KnoxEndemic@ighaworth Clear judgment often isn't the issue
It really does come down to the Mike Tyson principle: Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face
That's why every parent has a list of things they do that before kids they said they'd never do