rob barnhart

Lutheran layperson who now has a podcast voices of church past. a veritable theology nerd.

[rob barnhart @robthemany]

@BrysonGray Yep and then He made it clear He did it for you.

[rob barnhart @robthemany]

@joshwhitlatch Strive just remember who inspires that striving not you but Him. But no the Holy Spirit doesn’t fail because if I persist in sin or false teaching then at some point holiness much cast me away.

[rob barnhart @robthemany]

@SuitSheep My denomination doesn’t even let female members vote. So I think much of your objections are aimed at people not like us.

[rob barnhart @robthemany]

@SuitSheep The rest of your statement doesn’t apply to my tradition which is not modern evangelicalism

[rob barnhart @robthemany]

@SuitSheep These are largely interchangeable for the same group of people in passages like Acts 20:17-28 (Paul calls for the elders of Ephesus, addresses them as overseers, and commands them to shepherd the flock) and 1 Peter 5:1-2 (elders are to shepherd God’s flock while serving

[rob barnhart @robthemany]

@SuitSheep Pastor” office with that exact title in the singular as a formal job like we see today. Leadership terms overlap heavily:
• Elders (presbyteroi — mature leaders).
• Overseers/bishops (episkopoi — guardians/managers).
• Shepherds/pastors (poimenes — those who fee

[rob barnhart @robthemany]

@SuitSheep Treating “pastor” as a free-floating gift that can be exercised with pastoral authority/title (preaching, leading, shepherding publicly) while evading elder qualifications is special pleading. It allows the function and title without the biblical guardrails.

[rob barnhart @robthemany]

@SuitSheep • 1 Peter 5:1-2: Peter exhorts fellow elders to shepherd (poimanate) the flock while exercising oversight (episkopountes). Again, the same men.

[rob barnhart @robthemany]

@SuitSheep • Acts 20:17-28: Paul summons the elders of Ephesus. He then calls them overseers (episkopous) whom the Holy Spirit made responsible to shepherd (poimainein) the flock. All three terms in one passage for the identical leaders.

[rob barnhart @robthemany]

@SuitSheep The New Testament uses elder (presbyteros), overseer/bishop (episkopos), and shepherd/pastor (poimēn/poimainō) to describe the same group of people doing the same work in local churches:

[rob barnhart @robthemany]

@SuitSheep Wrong your proof text would need to assume Paul must state such there and also ignores where he did. He gave that men can be elders pastor or deacon in his letters where he lays out the qualifications of such positions. He lays out a majority of people are not qualified

[rob barnhart @robthemany]

@SuitSheep I would say they don’t read ritualistically.

[rob barnhart @robthemany]

@SuitSheep Our pastors do also serve as an elder. And most of our elders read the readings. Thus didn’t address your poor proof text. Though

[rob barnhart @robthemany]

@Machi1Nne By what standard?

[rob barnhart @robthemany]

@SuitSheep Overseer is pastor. What you said about your verse is true. Unfortunately for you in the qualifications of pastor and elder being a man is one. When making doctrine we must analyze all the texts on the subject not just pick and choose to suit our fancy

[rob barnhart @robthemany]

So if nobody on x can answer his fallacious question then the entire Christian worldview is refuted. That’s this dopes logic. Brainless stupidity run amok

[Harm @harm3t]

Since nobody can answer this question, it follows that God does not exist.

[rob barnhart @robthemany]

@SuitSheep This isn’t about talent, education, or “authority over strangers for 25 minutes.” It’s about the kind of office Christ instituted for the public preaching of the Word and administration of the Sacraments in the church’s gathered life. The texts tie this to creation order.

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@SuitSheep When a pastor (properly called) preaches, he speaks in persona Christi—in the stead and by the command of Christ—for that gathered assembly. It’s representative, not ontological. The authority is derivative and ministerial, tethered entirely to the Word.

[rob barnhart @robthemany]

We really are getting dumber. It’s absolutely breathtaking

[Harm @harm3t]

People were killed in the Bible for blasphemy against God, but when Christians blaspheme against Satan, nobody says anything about it.